Ninety-four percent of participants in a new study stood firm in their trans identity after five years, and “detransitioning” is rare.

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    yeah, it’s v weird & ill-informed of them to not count nonbinary people as trans. even the way they shove these two sentences into one paragraph, as though being nonbinary is somehow detransitioning:

    One thing to consider is that this study began almost a decade ago, in 2013, and the way we frame transitioning and “detransitioning” has been evolving. When the researchers started the study, no one they interviewed identified as nonbinary or used they/them pronouns, Olson told NBC News.

    i’m pretty sure nonbinary people were trans before 2013, but those researchers also had plenty of time to, y’know, do research on it in the meantime 😬

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      i’ve seen some nonbinary people who don’t identify as trans, which doesn’t make sense to me, but people can call themselves what they want

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        i agree that people can call themselves whatever they want, they know themselves best!

        these researchers don’t have the right to make that decision for others, though.

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            i never said you said that either; i was just attempting to tie the conversation back to the research there, apologies for my clunky writing!

            i’d be fine if the researchers had asked the nonbinary people in their study whether they consider themselves trans or not, then the researchers would have learned new things about transness & what it means to individual people! 💚 but disappointingly, the researchers seem to have excluded them from transness by default, without asking. 🥀😮‍💨

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        Being trans is really about changing your actual body. Not all people want to change their body. Nonbinary is just about not putting yourself in either category. I am nonbinary and transfem. I like to look fem but I’m still masc in some ways and also tomboyish.

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          see i’m with those who believe if you change your physical body you are not only transgender but transsexual, though i know some have a problem with the latter term. as someone who’s had surgery i like being able to specify.

          the definition of transgender i’m going by is that trans = not your biological sex. so if a nonbinary person does not identify with their biological sex, they are not cisgender. and not cis is… trans. but again, this is just my definition. everyone’s gonna have their own way of defining their reality.

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            Just like gender these words don’t really have much concrete meaning. IDC how people identify. I think it’s interesting.