• FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    And where are the rest of the people who helped this wrong insurrection against the Chinese government?? Millions of people rallying against China but they’re still the good guys. Keep telling yourself that you’re right and everybody else is wrong, you’ll be always right

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      20 hours ago

      The riots died down and the majority of people support the status quo. That’s literally what happened. Hong Kong is doing better now than when they were a British colony, that you seem to wish they remain.

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        20 hours ago

        Why did the riots died down? Was it a decision by the people or had the Chinese state step in to crack down the manifestations by force? Have you seen the images of Chinese police attacking protestors and people?? Are you selectively blind?

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          It was both. Police cracked down on violent protestors, and the protestors gave up as well. The pro-colonization side lost and now most people support the status quo. Capitaliats are still upset though.

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            20 hours ago

            Ah yes, the always useful “violent protestors”. How convenient there’s always some in all movements against China

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              19 hours ago

              The west does indeed try to force violence into protests they back, yep! Arming and radicalizing people against socialist governments is a tried and true tactic of the west.

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                19 hours ago

                And please tell me, how can you radicalise an entire people to the point where they are ready to put their lives on the line for the ideals you presented them with? Couldn’t it be that these people share those same ideals while rejecting the ones being forcefully placed on themselves by what they see as a dictatorship? No, of course not, they are just all stupid and brainwashed I’m sure will be your answer. More projecting from someone who, as I already said, should have worked in a cinema

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                  19 hours ago

                  It was never “an entire people.” The rioters were a minority of the population, with many people (and many more now) accepting inclusion into China and no longer being a colony. Those that did riot were not “brainwashed,” as brainwashing doesn’t exist, but instead were largely under the belief that they benefited from the colonial system (or in many cases truly did). The west colluded with elites in Hong Kong to orchestrate these riots and create a picture of a city fighting to remain under British colonial rule, but in actuality the protests died down and now people generally are happier being folded into China.

                  Here’s a good list of sources on the Hong Kong protests and the far-right western influence on them.

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                    17 hours ago

                    So 1.7 million people protesting against the Chinese government are a minority of the population? Your delusion is reaching unseen boundaries, please tell me more about how peaceful and respectful of minorities is the Chinese government