• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    Dissent isn’t criminal, undermining the socialist system is. Speak with Chinese citizens yourselves, the majority are proud of their country and enjoy the system they’ve been collectively building for themselves.

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      Oh, I have. What’s really fun is talking to Chinese expats who no longer fear government reprisal. I did a lot of interviews as part of a thesis on the concept of a social panopticon and panoptic influence.

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        Only speaking to expats and not actual citizens is like talking only to Cuban exiles about Cuba and not Cubans themselves.

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            Citation needed, otherwise this is just chauvanism. You just pulled all of this right out of your ass. China doesn’t have oligarchs, they have administrators and government officials, and the CPC itself has over 100 million members.

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                China is in the developing stages of socialism. Billionaires exist, but are gradually decreasing in number over time as the working class gradually increases in prosperity. China has not yet achieved communism, where distribution is based on need. Instead, distribution is mostly based on the market for now, according to labor primary.

                If you’re going to quote Marx, the least you could do is read him.

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                  China saw a 60% increase in billionaires between 2020 and 2021 alone. It fell since then but it’s still higher than it was pre-pandemic, and WAY higher than it was in the '70s before China went free market.

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                    China never went “free market.” They adopted some market reforms, but even prior to it still had private property and markets. They never once had a fully publicly owned and planned economy.

                    China was also dramatically poor and underdeveloped. I believe I already explained why, the Gang of Four thought it was better to be “pure” and poor than it was to adopt reforms while maintaining socialism in the interests of rapid development. China’s socialist system and strong public ownership while flexibly adopting market mechanisms in controlled manners is what has brought them such success, and is why they are on track to become the world’s most developed and advanced country in the near future.

                    Again, if you’re going to quote Marx, the least you could do is read him.