• SolarPunker@slrpnk.net
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    6 hours ago

    I suppose you are both referring to USA politics: it seems clear that dems contains many different souls but I wouldn’t call AOC or Sanders right-wing, even here in Europe where we actually have real left.

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      6 hours ago

      The left starts at anti-capitalism. Anything other than that is right wing

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        26 minutes ago

        And this take is why Trump won. Congrats.

        The right wing starts at fascism. Or so it has evolved to.

        Vote against fascism next time.

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          Reformism is not anti-capitalism. Reforms are just nicer capitalism. There will still be capitalism and imperialism but people just get a bigger slice of the imperialist pie until the ruling class decides to take the slice away.

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        5 hours ago

        Left and right are relative to the actual political spectrum of the subject. There are different approaches to anticapitalism, centrist on the left-wing wants to implement social politics to improve welfare, this doesn’t make it socialists.

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          5 hours ago

          Your notion is a very post modernist ideology of absolute relativism, which is an idealist unscientific notion. Socialism starts at anti-capitalism. Anything pro-capitalist is not left wing because everything falls under liberalism which is not a left wing ideology.