I read that article and it’s the kind of neurotypical bullshit that pissed me off.
they say, Cassandra syndrome is when a NT woman in a relationship with ASD man tells people about her husband being autistic and no one pays attention to them. and they say it’s as bad as PTSD.
God dammit, can NT not make everything about themselves for like one fucking minute.
no Cassandra syndrome is when NT never listens to us and we are always right about everything.
No, NTs can almost never view things from not their perspective.
I want to give the few decent and open minded and compassionate and thoughtful NTs I’ve met and known credit, it truly isn’t all of them, some of them are wonderful.
But goddamnit if it isn’t over 3/4 of NTs who are basically narcissists but are legitimately too un-self-aware for themselves to realize it or for other NTs to clock it.
Anyway uh, thanks for letting me know there literally is a term for basically being right almost all the time and people hating you for it, usually because they are too insecure / too egotistical to be able to attempt to comprehend their own bullshit,.so they just shoot the messenger.
… yay autism …
Another thing that freaks out NTs:
Tell them to look into who came up with the terms Aspergers and Autism, promoted their initial use.
Spoilers!
Its literally Nazis and their progenitor race science / eugenecist types, and yes, they literally used these terms to justify holocausting people like us.
NTs often get really defensive when you bring that up, especially when they are psychologist/psychiatrist NTs.
NT are socialised to be themselves and to not think about other people because they are all like they are.
While we are naturally forced to learn to empathise and understand everyone, both NT and in the spectrum. resulting in us being able to care and appreciate others, while for them, it is insulting to them to have to consider other people.
And because they are told all their life that they are special the way they are, they have difficulty understanding that different people exist, and whenever there is friction, they are the victim because they are normal and their partner MUST mask 24/7 otherwise it is abusive (might be venting about personal experiences).
also the Nazis weren’t the first ones doing eugenics on us, read into the whole changeling myth.
I agree that a good chunk of it is socialization and stigmatiization driving and reinforcing thought modes that persist throughout life, but I also think that a large majority of NTs do not consciously think before they speak, the way they process social situations is largely un/subconscious, automatic, closer to breathing/blinking than to walking or origami, and they literally cannot fathom that for others, socialization is a much more explicitly conscious, intentional, and active process.
A large subset of the population literally does not have a consistent internal monologue, ie, explicit, active linguistic thought processing of the world around them, and basically cannot imagine what it would be like to just have that all or most of the time. For those people, that’s not a default mode, its basically a demanding task to perform.
Roughly 30%-50% of people have regular inner monologues, meaning roughly 50% to 70% of people don’t.
Those are the people I am talking about, for whom constructing an actually logically consistent and linguistically precise thought is basically an uncommon and exceptional task of mental labor, as opposed to… a default operating mode that happens almost all the time and for which it actually takes mental effort or some kind of conditioning to not do that, or to moderate it.
I think theres more to it than just socialization.
Nearly 1/2 to 3/4 of people where an inner monologue seems like a fantastical, made up idea, an uncommon task to perform?
That seems to be way too many to be from socialization alone, that seems to me to have a large ‘nature’ component.
FUCK AGAIN
I read that article and it’s the kind of neurotypical bullshit that pissed me off.
they say, Cassandra syndrome is when a NT woman in a relationship with ASD man tells people about her husband being autistic and no one pays attention to them. and they say it’s as bad as PTSD.
God dammit, can NT not make everything about themselves for like one fucking minute.
no Cassandra syndrome is when NT never listens to us and we are always right about everything.
No, NTs can almost never view things from not their perspective.
I want to give the few decent and open minded and compassionate and thoughtful NTs I’ve met and known credit, it truly isn’t all of them, some of them are wonderful.
But goddamnit if it isn’t over 3/4 of NTs who are basically narcissists but are legitimately too un-self-aware for themselves to realize it or for other NTs to clock it.
Anyway uh, thanks for letting me know there literally is a term for basically being right almost all the time and people hating you for it, usually because they are too insecure / too egotistical to be able to attempt to comprehend their own bullshit,.so they just shoot the messenger.
… yay autism …
Another thing that freaks out NTs:
Tell them to look into who came up with the terms Aspergers and Autism, promoted their initial use.
Spoilers!
Its literally Nazis and their progenitor race science / eugenecist types, and yes, they literally used these terms to justify holocausting people like us.
NTs often get really defensive when you bring that up, especially when they are psychologist/psychiatrist NTs.
I have a personal theory,
NT are socialised to be themselves and to not think about other people because they are all like they are.
While we are naturally forced to learn to empathise and understand everyone, both NT and in the spectrum. resulting in us being able to care and appreciate others, while for them, it is insulting to them to have to consider other people.
And because they are told all their life that they are special the way they are, they have difficulty understanding that different people exist, and whenever there is friction, they are the victim because they are normal and their partner MUST mask 24/7 otherwise it is abusive (might be venting about personal experiences).
also the Nazis weren’t the first ones doing eugenics on us, read into the whole changeling myth.
I agree that a good chunk of it is socialization and stigmatiization driving and reinforcing thought modes that persist throughout life, but I also think that a large majority of NTs do not consciously think before they speak, the way they process social situations is largely un/subconscious, automatic, closer to breathing/blinking than to walking or origami, and they literally cannot fathom that for others, socialization is a much more explicitly conscious, intentional, and active process.
A large subset of the population literally does not have a consistent internal monologue, ie, explicit, active linguistic thought processing of the world around them, and basically cannot imagine what it would be like to just have that all or most of the time. For those people, that’s not a default mode, its basically a demanding task to perform.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/intersections/202304/inner-monologues-what-are-they-and-whos-having-them
https://www.iflscience.com/people-with-no-internal-monologue-explain-what-its-like-in-their-head-57739
https://www.verywellmind.com/does-everyone-have-an-inner-monologue-6831748
Roughly 30%-50% of people have regular inner monologues, meaning roughly 50% to 70% of people don’t.
Those are the people I am talking about, for whom constructing an actually logically consistent and linguistically precise thought is basically an uncommon and exceptional task of mental labor, as opposed to… a default operating mode that happens almost all the time and for which it actually takes mental effort or some kind of conditioning to not do that, or to moderate it.
I think theres more to it than just socialization.
Nearly 1/2 to 3/4 of people where an inner monologue seems like a fantastical, made up idea, an uncommon task to perform?
That seems to be way too many to be from socialization alone, that seems to me to have a large ‘nature’ component.
I wish I could shut my inner monologue every now and then.
No thoughts up there, like zombies.