• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    5 hours ago

    Kinda? What do you think socialism looks like, if not the PRC? What about the PRC makes it not “genuine worker control,” or more broadly, Marxism-Leninism not “genuine worker control?”

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        They are, though. China is a democratic country, and public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy. Polling shows genuine democracy:

        What would worker control have to look like for you to accept it?

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          You can’t possibly think China is a democracy for real?

          It’s literally a 1 party authoritarian state with a president for life

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            You can’t possibly think China is a democracy for real?

            yes we can, because we have actually studied the political structure of china

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            The PRC isn’t a western liberal faux-democracy, no, but it is a comprehensive unitary socialist democracy. Policy is usually pushed from the bottom-up, and there is comprehensive levels of provincial, regional, and national democracy. They abolished term limits for the presidential position, but that doesn’t mean “president for life,” Xi can be taken down democratically. It’s unlikely, though, considering he enjoys over 90% support.

            As for being “authoritarian,” all states are. The difference with China is that the working class is in control of the state, rather than the capitalist class like in western countries.