Saw this in my adguard home query logs.
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Haha
Brave is like the ExpressVPN of browsers
From Wiki:
Brave Software was founded in 2015 by Brendan Eich, creator of JavaScript and former Mozilla CEO who left the organization after coming under fire for his support of eliminating the right of same-sex couples to marry […]
and
In August 2016, the company had received at least US$7 million in angel investments from venture capital firms, including Peter Thiel’s Founders Fund […]
Should tell you everything you need to know.
I’d say being ‘privacy focused’ is just a stick to get non-tech savy/gullible people that want to protect their privacy to use it, without thinking about it twice. Personally, I believe there is 0% chance they don’t sell (or simply give) all data they can to Peter Thiel and Palantir.
…also to Facebook, also one of the investors. Brave has good privacy protections, but they are selective.
What browser should I use on mobile? I use Librewolf on desktop since it runs fine, and the vertical tabs are great, and it looks nice.
On mobile though there’s a lot of problems with the browser space:
- Chrome: runs great but is obviously not good for privacy
- Firefox: what most people recommend, but it has terrible performance, looks not great, and doesn’t even have more than basic fingerprinting protection, and literally includes ads by default. It’s also less secure on Android because they don’t do per site process isolation, and the memory allocator is worse.
- Brave: people tend to dislike brave here, but it runs well (since it’s chromium based) and has at least better fingerprinting protection.
What other options are there?
Tbh firefox performs great and works for me, and its issues can be fixed with extensions and settings, both on desktop and mobile. I never looked for anything else myself. I also like to use a browser that is not chromium-based, I do not want google to have the monopoly.
maybe I am just not picky, but if you need more privacy than what can be achieved with a hardened firefox config you might be better off using TOR at that point.
hmmm
i never get the performance part.
what the fuck are you doing where you can even notice performance differences?
nobody should use vanilla firefox. the extensions are the vital part of it
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IronFox, Fennec Fox
no, brave is just another crypto scam
People sadly believe so. Firefox, a few addons and you are good to go.
It boggles my mind how people still recommend Brave as a good browser for privacy.
The entire point of Brave from the beginning was their own Crypto currency that they wanted to shill.
In their early days they offered a bunch of Tech YouTubers some crypto (via affiliate links) in return for them shilling brave.Brave is basically just yet another Chromium reskin with custom branding, extra tracking and crypto bullshit bolted to it.
No, the builtin AdBlocker does not make it “worth it”. Stop recommending this pile of crap.
Brave is a scam.
I’ve never really had a comfortable feeling about Brave. I have no substantiating evidence, it just seems a bit squirrely. Besides the Tor browser, LibreWolf, Waterfox, and FireFox are the only acceptable browsers as far as I’m concerned, tho I don’t come down on those seeking an alternative to Google Chrome.
Any alternative to brave in iOS with adblocker? (I know, probably use another OS)
Vivaldi for iOS, it has an inbuild ad- and trackerblocker
Far as I remember any browser in iOS is a scam anyways because Apple forces any browser in their platform to be based off of the same engine as Safari.
Yea, fuck webkit
AFAIK at least in the EU because have to admit also browsers with a different engine as WebKit. WebKit is same as Blink a fork from the KHTML engine by KDE, butway less advanced as Blink or Gecko, who outscore WebKit in modern webformats. This is why Apple don’t want other browsers which make Safari obsolete. Anyway, sooner or later Safari will be the next IE.
Sooner or later? They already are lol
Yes, but I won’t be so harsh
Orion can use Chrome and Firefox plugins. Works great!
General practice, I do not use my phone as a compute platform. I realize others cannot do the same all the time. I do run firefox and a VPN which has an adblocker as part of it’s tool set.
Just use Firefox for gods sakes, Brave is a complete joke of a browser especially when it comes to privacy.
Yeah, doing any kind of digging into Brave will immediately send up warning flares that the privacy claims are pure fluff. Just use Firefox or Librewolf.
Firefox is great. Librewolf if you’re extra keen on privacy.
Yes, a lot of people believe it, FF devs discuting in Google groups, Vivaldi in a own Mastodon instance. Mozilla since time is an Google pet which can’t survive without the support from Google.
- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43340948
- https://groups.google.com/g/google-web-toolkit/c/QSEjbhhHB4g
It’s not the engine which use a browser, all engines are 100% FLOSS, it is important what you do with it.
even tho most low level searches and recommendations gonna point towards brave as the private browser, all you need to just look at the options. its datafarming, its running in the background randomly, its an nftbro chrome.
I tend to recommend Brave for the ones who aren’t technically savvy. For that, its good.
For me who is really into privacy, I’ve always felt uncomfortable with brave or any chrome based browser. So I go with TOR and LibreWolf
the crypto browser? it’s not private and never was
better than stock chrome or edge. Not better than Mullvad Browser.
That’s the lie they try to sell you.
I swear Brave ran a very successful guerrilla marketing campaign and it succeeded on Reddit. If you so much as question it or suggest an alternative, you get dogpiled on by Brave bros. I don’t trust it one bit. I’ll stick to FF and its forks.
Exactly. Same with Opera GX whatever, which is just a weird chinese spying chrome, with nothing to do with Opera from the good old days when it was still Norwegian (Vivaldi is made by those guys still).
Yeah, haven’t they done a ton of shady shit? I always cringe when people recommend the Brave browser. It’s like recommending a free VPN.
Brave is a protection racket wrapped in a cryptocurrency scam, created by a bigoted fuckwit. It is fractally shit.
Apparently Brave’s got some cryptocurrency components, so I guess that’s where the cult-like following is.
PrivacyGuides being among those bros.
Why I recommend against Brave - Luca Bramè.
This article is a pretty good breakdown of why you shouldn’t use Brave.
Any decent person wouldn’t use brave.
https://www.christiantoday.com.au/news/former-mozilla-ceo-ousted-for-opposing-gay-marriage-makes-comeback-with-new-internet-browser-brave.html this is who you’re supporting.
Brave (the company) has a long history of doing dodgy stuff. They are just trying to do what Google did (directing clicks to their own shit), but they’re using privacy as their marketing spiel.
