I hate cinnamon, but everyone has different tastes: I when I use linux, if I need to have gui installed mate, or else system will go rm -rf / I saw gnome, desktop doesn’t work with orca, menu start stopped working after some updates, so mate all the way, I tried kde, but i gave up on it, it just didn’t clicked out, desktop was not accessible, menu start too. everything is bork. mate is not, for some reason, so I have it on my debian vm on utm. I’m forced to use debian, as I can’t find fedora mate arm64, or fedora with old gnome 40.0