I think whatever rules are made won’t matter if there can be another server that breaks them and moderation is not something you can subscribe to. The simple reason: scaling. Reddit used to be OK, until facebook did something stupid and suddenly facebook users swarmed the site.
Mastodon is currently going through this: it was pretty tame before Musk + Twitter happened. Twitter is the biggest trashcan I’ve ever seen and now the trash is migrating. Currently they are mostly sane people migrating, but the twitter mannerisms have already settled in: harrassing mastodon developers, “twitter had this feature, why doesn’t mastodon have it”, “I’ll block anybody with X in their profile”, “if you’re with X then you aren’t with Y –> block”, etc.
The same happened to a few forums I was on - eternal september arrived and the quality dropped.
You raise a good point. I’m not sure how moderation is going to play out on Lemmy as it scales up in population and users from reddit and other sites who come in with their own mannerisms and expectations. I think the ideal that’s hoped for is that if a certain instance is causing issues with it’s users being toxic on this instance we can unlink from them. But say everyone ends up clustering on only one or two instances and one of those communities becomes toxic. I can see how unlinking from them can turn into a really controversial move down the line, especially if a lot of the communities we are subscribed to and like happen to be hosted on that same toxic instance.
I think whatever rules are made won’t matter if there can be another server that breaks them and moderation is not something you can subscribe to. The simple reason: scaling. Reddit used to be OK, until facebook did something stupid and suddenly facebook users swarmed the site.
Mastodon is currently going through this: it was pretty tame before Musk + Twitter happened. Twitter is the biggest trashcan I’ve ever seen and now the trash is migrating. Currently they are mostly sane people migrating, but the twitter mannerisms have already settled in: harrassing mastodon developers, “twitter had this feature, why doesn’t mastodon have it”, “I’ll block anybody with X in their profile”, “if you’re with X then you aren’t with Y –> block”, etc.
The same happened to a few forums I was on - eternal september arrived and the quality dropped.
You raise a good point. I’m not sure how moderation is going to play out on Lemmy as it scales up in population and users from reddit and other sites who come in with their own mannerisms and expectations. I think the ideal that’s hoped for is that if a certain instance is causing issues with it’s users being toxic on this instance we can unlink from them. But say everyone ends up clustering on only one or two instances and one of those communities becomes toxic. I can see how unlinking from them can turn into a really controversial move down the line, especially if a lot of the communities we are subscribed to and like happen to be hosted on that same toxic instance.