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nanoUFO@sh.itjust.worksM to Games@sh.itjust.worksEnglish · 2 years ago

Dusk: Unpopular opinion: I'd rather pay Valve 30% and put up with their de facto monopoly than help Epic work towards their own (very obviously desired) monopoly

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Dusk: Unpopular opinion: I'd rather pay Valve 30% and put up with their de facto monopoly than help Epic work towards their own (very obviously desired) monopoly

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nanoUFO@sh.itjust.worksM to Games@sh.itjust.worksEnglish · 2 years ago
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  • hedgehog@ttrpg.network
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    2 years ago

    Do you have a source for that claim that doesn’t reference the sale of Steam keys specifically?

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      https://www.eurogamer.net/new-lawsuit-accuses-valve-of-abusing-steam-market-power-to-prevent-price-competition

      https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1090663312814157824?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

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        2 years ago

        Your best sources are a tweet by a competitor and a 2.5 year old lawsuit filed because of that tweet? Excuse me for maintaining my skepticism.

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          Is a lawsuit by Wolfire game more credible?

          https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/05/judge-brings-dismissed-steam-antitrust-lawsuit-back-from-the-dead/

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            Yes, that’s much more credible - thank you for sharing that. This part in particular is concerning:

            The ruling makes particular note of “a Steam account manager [who] informed Plaintiff Wolfire that ‘it would delist any games available for sale at a lower price elsewhere, whether or not using Steam keys [emphasis in original complaint].’” The amended suit also alleges that “this experience is not unique to Wolfire,” which could factor into the developer’s proposed class-action complaint.

            I wasn’t able to find any instances of Steam actually de-listing a game because it was listed cheaper elsewhere, but a credible threat to do so is almost as bad (possibly worse, really, since such a threat hints that Steam might have used other underhanded tactics when dealing with game devs). I wasn’t able to find any more recent news on the case, but hopefully we’ll learn if the issue was that particular Account Manager + lack of oversight or something more.

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