Edit: Yeah, I checked the article, these are children aged 8-12. I had some awful fluffing opinions at that age too, even if I never would have committed an act like this.
No one deserves acid thrown at them AND young children should not be tried as adults.
Justice exist both for victims and perpretators. So that victims can obtain sentencing of their agressors, and that agressors get a fair and impartial sentencing, taking their age into account.
Good point, I misread that comment. So I edited my reply accordingly.
This is a serious crime and they deserve to be punished accordingly. And no matter how dumb and hateful they, they’re minors so a judge can’t ignore their age and relevant law to set a sentence.
Hate crimes are born from opinions. My point was that at that age a lot of people think some awful things. I thought gay people shouldn’t be able to adopt, thanks to being raised in a Catholic family. These lot committed a terrible act and that’s important to acknowledge as well, but I don’t think they should be jailed for life at the age of eight years old for it. I can’t believe that’s a controversial take?
Hate crimes are born from opinions. My point was that at that age a lot of people think some awful things.
That may be, but my point was that the call for jail was due to their “opinions” fueling an impactful crime. You said yourself, despite the awful beliefs you held at that age, you’d have never committed such an act. I think that’s an important distinction.
I don’t think they should be jailed for life at the age of eight years old for it.
FWIW, I can appreciate the reasons that there is a juvenile court system in the US and agree that life without parole seems excessive based on my limited understanding of the crime and its context.
I’ll take the down votes for this, the feeling is mutual.
The sociopathic kids who cut up neighborhood pets, inflict life long injuries on other people, burn down homes for fun, rape little girls cause voices said so, can all rot in a hole.
Anyone who cries that ‘oh they didn’t know better’ or ‘oh it’s how they’re raised’ or any other excuse can fuck right off.
No place in society, and I’d happily throw all the fuckers who defend them in the same hole.
That kinda sanewashing of bullshit behavior is why we get the fucking shit we do.
Sociopathic cunts need to be held to account by society, and so do the parents, neighbors and friends who empower them.
I’m not excusing their behaviour. I just don’t believe in punishment over rehabilitation. These are 8-12yo and I choose to believe that they aren’t irredeemable or that they are incapable of learning better. If that makes me naïve then so be it, I’d rather be naïve than carry that sort of hate in my heart as well.
I don’t hate them, or you. I’m being pragmatic. Them, and the people who sanewash and excuse their behavior are the enablers of this, and are inherently irredeemable.
It’s kind of hilarious that you’re using a term coined from discussions on defunding the police while simultaneously promoting the prison system. I’m not excusing their heinous behaviour, I just also don’t believe an eight year old that hasn’t come close to developing an adult level of reasoning should be put in prison for life. But whatever, keep making excuses for your disgusting opinions.
I’m sorry, but you disgust me.
Edit: Yeah, I checked the article, these are children aged 8-12. I had some awful fluffing opinions at that age too, even if I never would have committed an act like this.
No one deserves acid thrown at them AND young children should not be tried as adults.
Justice exist both for victims and perpretators. So that victims can obtain sentencing of their agressors, and that agressors get a fair and impartial sentencing, taking their age into account.
I never said it was an either or? Do you think I, as a trans woman, am not completely horrified about this act?
Good point, I misread that comment. So I edited my reply accordingly.
This is a serious crime and they deserve to be punished accordingly. And no matter how dumb and hateful they, they’re minors so a judge can’t ignore their age and relevant law to set a sentence.
You are correct. Life in prison for their parents
I don’t think OP wants to put them in jail for their opinions, but because they committed this act…
Hate crimes are born from opinions. My point was that at that age a lot of people think some awful things. I thought gay people shouldn’t be able to adopt, thanks to being raised in a Catholic family. These lot committed a terrible act and that’s important to acknowledge as well, but I don’t think they should be jailed for life at the age of eight years old for it. I can’t believe that’s a controversial take?
That may be, but my point was that the call for jail was due to their “opinions” fueling an impactful crime. You said yourself, despite the awful beliefs you held at that age, you’d have never committed such an act. I think that’s an important distinction.
FWIW, I can appreciate the reasons that there is a juvenile court system in the US and agree that life without parole seems excessive based on my limited understanding of the crime and its context.
I’ll take the down votes for this, the feeling is mutual.
The sociopathic kids who cut up neighborhood pets, inflict life long injuries on other people, burn down homes for fun, rape little girls cause voices said so, can all rot in a hole.
Anyone who cries that ‘oh they didn’t know better’ or ‘oh it’s how they’re raised’ or any other excuse can fuck right off.
No place in society, and I’d happily throw all the fuckers who defend them in the same hole.
That kinda sanewashing of bullshit behavior is why we get the fucking shit we do.
Sociopathic cunts need to be held to account by society, and so do the parents, neighbors and friends who empower them.
Please don’t have kids.
I’m not excusing their behaviour. I just don’t believe in punishment over rehabilitation. These are 8-12yo and I choose to believe that they aren’t irredeemable or that they are incapable of learning better. If that makes me naïve then so be it, I’d rather be naïve than carry that sort of hate in my heart as well.
I don’t hate them, or you. I’m being pragmatic. Them, and the people who sanewash and excuse their behavior are the enablers of this, and are inherently irredeemable.
It’s kind of hilarious that you’re using a term coined from discussions on defunding the police while simultaneously promoting the prison system. I’m not excusing their heinous behaviour, I just also don’t believe an eight year old that hasn’t come close to developing an adult level of reasoning should be put in prison for life. But whatever, keep making excuses for your disgusting opinions.