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      Laziness is pleasurable???

      Laziness has ALWAYS been derided as a character flaw.

      Executive disfunction is euphemism treadmill for laziness. There were books 50 years ago on how to self manage behavior.

      Executive disfunction is still a character flaw. It’s ok to be flawed. We are human. Recognizing flaws and trying to fix ourselves is personal growth.

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        From the ocean of laziness comes fabulous fishes. But you have to enter the ocean of laziness first. You’ve got to submit to it and be okay with it. And then when you are all floppy and spread out like that, a true inspiration will arise.

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        Laziness has ALWAYS been derided as a character flaw.

        This is a nonsequitor. Masturbation has also long been vilified. Doesn’t make it not pleasurable. In fact, many things that are pleasurable are framed as character flaws by people who believe they will benefit from your self-denial.

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          Laziness does not mean lack of responsibilities and not doing anything. Laziness means needing to do something and not doing it. The definition is unwilling.

          The premise that normies get pleasure from being lazy is false. Executive disfunction means not responding to the anxiety with action to remove the anxiety. Instead the anxiety becomes its own feedback loop of inaction.

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          Your link is on the official definition of executive disfunction. The OP used executive disfunction in the common use, “I don’t do things I think I should.” That’s also the definition of laziness.

          When people use the common definition of executive disfunction they are euphemism treadmilling laziness.

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            But OOP did not say “I don’t do things I think I should”, they said “I don’t do things I want to do”. They described the executive dysfunction loop quite well.

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            When people use the common definition of executive disfunction they are euphemism treadmilling laziness.

            I was unaware of anyone outside of ASD/ADHD communities regularly using the term.

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              The OP used executive disfunction as synonymous with lazy. The term executive disfunction has been used in mainstream media for years.

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                can be broken into two main categories: anxiety that your attempt won’t be successful or confusion about where to start or how to break it down into steps

                doesn’t sound like laziness to me

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        Yes Laziness can be pleasurable and is not always seen as a character flaw. I pay someone to come clean my home because I have the disposable income and I do not wish to do this. This is a sign of virtue because I am not a “drain” on society but am a “job creator” (not really she has more customers than just me.)

        As for Executive dysfunction. This is not “Oh I can decide what I want to eat so I’ll just snack.” Executive dysfunction is an acute state where the person is unable to make any decision let alone move causing them to literally freeze up and not respond to others.

        And I would tread lightly with the term “character flaw” people here are not dealing with character flaws, they are trying to navigate this alien world.

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          This is a sign of virtue

          That is because it isn’t laziness by definition. You aren’t unwilling to clean. You don’t need to clean. Laziness would be if you couldn’t afford to have someone do the work, you knew it needed to be done and you still didn’t do it.

          I pay someone farm wheat and turn it into bread. That’s not being lazy.

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            Now we come to your perspective and view point. What is and is not laziness is based on ones opinions not facts. Many people where I live completely see it as lazy to let someone else clean their house. But you do not. Different perspectives different opinions. Maybe you would do well to consider others opinions and not stating your own as facts.

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              It’s not my opinion but the definition of the word in the dictionary. I looked it up before replying to the poster above you because I was unsure about the definition.

              Paying to have things done isn’t lazy or everyone who has lived post agricultural revolution circa 10,000BC is lazy.