I’m somewhat surprised by the result if I’m honest. I have switched to wireless and won’t go back at all. I do understand the use case for those who want them too but I did not realise it was such a popular request in modern phones!
That and the Lemmy demographic. Lemmy and the fediverse currently attracts folks who have rather strong feelings about the technology they use, which I won’t knock so long as they don’t give me shit for hading being tethered to my phone by a wired headphone.
Agreed. The only time I use a wire is on Delta flights with seat back entertainment. I can’t stand wires, they drive me nuts. I’ve been using Bluetooth headphones since they came out and their flexibility is unmatched.
Running on a treadmill watching tv? Done.
Watching a TV 20’ away so the sound doesn’t wake my wife? Done.
Working at a Starbucks and being able to walk to the counter for an order? Done.
Automatic start/stop and device switching? Done.
Yes they runs on batteries, but so does the rest of my life. Keeping things charged has never been an issue. I have over the ears with 24+ hours of battery life and in-ears with 6 hours. I have never had an issue with them being dead.
One reason I can see for a jack, maybe, is for audiophiles who run high end setups. But even those I think use a DAC and not the jack.
I’m not saying people don’t want the jack, I just don’t understand it. 🤷♂️
Really? Because so far despite removing consumer choice the phones have been getting bigger rather than more efficiently using their space. Also you just use the screen, I don’t recall a screen having to make way for a tiny headphone jack. In fact I don’t really see any benefits coming from freeing up that little space. Not that I can verify that for myself since that would mean being able to open my phone more than once and therefore being able replace the battery and repair my phone and we can’t have that because it would hurt the bottom line of small mom n pop businesses like Apple or Samsung.
A headphone jack is certainly not such a big deal in terms of space that it warrants removing it at the expense of consumer choice just because redballoon here wants an extra cm³ inside their phone to be empty.
I wonder how much is a result of people just blindly clicking through not realizing they have to physically manipulate the response options to move the choice to the top. First time interacting with that site and it is an incredibly stupid user interface.
Re: headphone jacks, its 2023. If someone still demands an unshielded analog electrical connection for their headphones, I have zero sympathy for them. Its like demanding cars have a dedicated hitch to connect a horse.
People still have wired headphones that still work perfectly fine. We used to be able to use them directly with our phones. We also had the option of using wireless too if we wanted. The option was removed, so now in order to keep using some of still perfectly fine electronics with our phones, it requires adapters. That’s annoying. What is the benefit to me as a consumer now that the jack is gone? Some marketing bullshit about weight or cost savings? I don’t buy it. Phones are larger than ever and more expensive than ever.
Don’t let yourself be gaslit by anti right to repair and apple propaganda. We had a smartphone with removable battery and headphone jack that you could swim with, it has been done.
The water resistance argument does not hold water, at all.
That and headphone jacks were able to be made waterproof pretty easily too. It does introduce a new area for potential incursion, but it’s pretty minimal for the vast majority of users.
I’m somewhat surprised by the result if I’m honest. I have switched to wireless and won’t go back at all. I do understand the use case for those who want them too but I did not realise it was such a popular request in modern phones!
It sucks when headphones run out of battery, especially on a long trip
It’s because the question is attracting mainly people who’ve already got a bee in their bonnet about headphone jacks.
Most people don’t even think about it because they went Bluetooth years ago.
That and the Lemmy demographic. Lemmy and the fediverse currently attracts folks who have rather strong feelings about the technology they use, which I won’t knock so long as they don’t give me shit for hading being tethered to my phone by a wired headphone.
Agreed. The only time I use a wire is on Delta flights with seat back entertainment. I can’t stand wires, they drive me nuts. I’ve been using Bluetooth headphones since they came out and their flexibility is unmatched.
Running on a treadmill watching tv? Done. Watching a TV 20’ away so the sound doesn’t wake my wife? Done. Working at a Starbucks and being able to walk to the counter for an order? Done. Automatic start/stop and device switching? Done.
Yes they runs on batteries, but so does the rest of my life. Keeping things charged has never been an issue. I have over the ears with 24+ hours of battery life and in-ears with 6 hours. I have never had an issue with them being dead.
One reason I can see for a jack, maybe, is for audiophiles who run high end setups. But even those I think use a DAC and not the jack.
I’m not saying people don’t want the jack, I just don’t understand it. 🤷♂️
Same. I’m just happier with wireless and I have a nice pair of wired headphones. Wireless is just more freeing.
Wireless has always been an option. Having the headphone jack doesn’t mean the Bluetooth module gets removed.
But it does mean a half cubic centimeter of space in my device that I’ll never use.
Ok? That space ain’t getting used by other shit when you remove the jack y’k.
Not when I remove it. But it allows the manufacturer to reassess the locations and sizes of everything, which in the end saves space.
Really? Because so far despite removing consumer choice the phones have been getting bigger rather than more efficiently using their space. Also you just use the screen, I don’t recall a screen having to make way for a tiny headphone jack. In fact I don’t really see any benefits coming from freeing up that little space. Not that I can verify that for myself since that would mean being able to open my phone more than once and therefore being able replace the battery and repair my phone and we can’t have that because it would hurt the bottom line of small mom n pop businesses like Apple or Samsung.
A headphone jack is certainly not such a big deal in terms of space that it warrants removing it at the expense of consumer choice just because redballoon here wants an extra cm³ inside their phone to be empty.
That has nothing to do with what I was responding to though.
I wonder how much is a result of people just blindly clicking through not realizing they have to physically manipulate the response options to move the choice to the top. First time interacting with that site and it is an incredibly stupid user interface.
Re: headphone jacks, its 2023. If someone still demands an unshielded analog electrical connection for their headphones, I have zero sympathy for them. Its like demanding cars have a dedicated hitch to connect a horse.
Sympathy? What a dumb take.
People still have wired headphones that still work perfectly fine. We used to be able to use them directly with our phones. We also had the option of using wireless too if we wanted. The option was removed, so now in order to keep using some of still perfectly fine electronics with our phones, it requires adapters. That’s annoying. What is the benefit to me as a consumer now that the jack is gone? Some marketing bullshit about weight or cost savings? I don’t buy it. Phones are larger than ever and more expensive than ever.
There’s half an argument to be made about waterproofing, but it kinda falls flat when the waterproofing we get isn’t that good.
“This phone is IP68 rated!”
Oh cool, so I can go swimming with it and take it into the shower?
“Haha, no.”
Great, so glad we gave up a ton of features for this.
Don’t let yourself be gaslit by anti right to repair and apple propaganda. We had a smartphone with removable battery and headphone jack that you could swim with, it has been done. The water resistance argument does not hold water, at all.
That and headphone jacks were able to be made waterproof pretty easily too. It does introduce a new area for potential incursion, but it’s pretty minimal for the vast majority of users.
That exact thing happened to me lol. So there’s at least one wrong vote in there due to the UI.