Well yeah, people in the current society do need money.
Well if you don’t like money, why do you need it so much?! /s
No no, that’s a farse and a uniquely human construct. Name me even one other species of creature that utilizes anything even remotely similar to money to survive…
We don’t need money to survive, we just submit ourselves to the government that orders us to use it.
Edit: I guess the downvoters don’t understand any other way of life, like owning a piece of dirt you can live on and grow your own farm and survive self sufficiently…
And yeah it sucks, I’m not in a self sufficient area myself anymore, because government and corporations have taken that from most of us.
Gotta pay mortgage, land tax, rent, electric, water, sewer, internet, phone, etc…
Somehow the rest of the creatures survive without money.
Other species don’t need clean water, clothes, complex tools and growing food. This makes their life simpler yet limits their number and habitat.
Try to live in a village growing own food. It’s a hard work, especially if you have cattles or other domestic animals. Villagers work from early morning to evening because there’s a lot things to do. Living in a city is much easier.
Is it not true though that this is seasonal and overall people that live this way work less than the average person living a modern life?
It is not like you get home from work and have no chores etc. Realistically a lot of the work these people do is something that a person with a house would call chores / upkeep.
Are you trolling?
If you’re not trolling, I would point out that modern (knowledge) workers work a lot, sure. But harder or more than farmers and laborers? No way.
He’s not trolling, but my guess is he read Sapiens and that’s his current gospel.
I don’t deny that the labour is physically harder, I’ve worked in my life retail, office and landscaping, I know that physical labour is tough. Though hard overall is subjective, I undoubtedly hated and found most every other job harder than my stint of about a year in landscaping, which was physically very taxing. The landscaping gig might have been the favorite job I’ve ever had.
But, no, I am not talking about people who work as farmers / labourers commercially, but instead the question is mostly about self sustained homestead / village living.
Growing uo I had small scale farmers in my family and had a countryside house where I knew a lot of the beighbours who lived there full time. Generally they seemed to have a couple of bursts of work during a day but most of the day was slowly and steadily attending to one or another chore / upkeep task
I would vager people living this way actually work far less hours in a given year than a person living a modern capitalist life, especially if you factor upkeep you have to do for your house after work etc, even if we assume a 40 hour work week, which lets face it, the average person probably exceeds (64 hours for me, personally).
Animals don’t need it!
Sure, but they also get eaten and die of tooth-rot.
People die of tooth rot while sitting in the emergency room, and even apply to be eaten, so what’s ya point?
Someone wants to be eaten= eVeRy One MusT bE eAtEn!!1!
If I vow to never come within 2 feet of money ever again I’ll die within 2 months
Point is, if money didn’t exist in the first place, we wouldn’t literally have to pay for a box and piece of dirt to sleep on.
That’s basically the original scam, charging people to have somewhere to sleep. Like, doesn’t the Earth belong to all of us? Why do we live in a society where not only do you have to pay for facilities, you can’t even grow your own garden in said facilities?
We’re literally paying to get screwed. Everyone should have the right to find themselves a piece of dirt and go build themselves a log cabin and a farm if they so choose.
Again, humans are totally capable of being self sufficient, we’re just too fucking lazy and oppressed by big business and government to do anything about it.
Money is a technological tool. It represents value of either commodities, services or work.
If it were to be used in its original form, it would be fine, but people have been complaining about manipulation since the bible (old testament).
So money isn’t to blame, it is (TADA!) people that are at fault.
How do I do that in our current society?
I’d love that actually. But I guess we will have to build that society for ourselves, and our overlords will probably be violent about it if we try.
Uh yeah, until society can change one still has to participate in it
I mean wanting to not need money doesn’t mean that you don’t need money right now
I envision a world without cancer. But until then, pass the sunscreen.
His criticism is very American-centric (gasp) but offers no transition that is feasible. You can’t be self sufficient inside a country that demands tax.
I think the closest his vision got to reality is the BRICS joint effort to make a new currency based on rare metals, but I don’t think that Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa have seen zeitgeist.
Back to Barter!
there. is. always. a. grift. if. they. haven’t. asked. yet. wait.
