Do you think pro-Trump Russian bots are building up anarchist/communist post histories to throw you off? Or that anarchists/communists are de facto Trump supporters by not voting blue no matter who?
I don’t go through people’s comment histories to try to validate them.
And there’s a shocking overlap in vernacular and memes between tankies and alt-right. Obviously they’re diametrically opposed on almost all issues. BUT neither really believe in good faith discussion, it’s mostly trolling and “dunking”. Mix in sarcasm that’s not obvious to an outsider, and the jokes are hard to tell apart from misinformation or “muddying the water”.
It’s way more present since Hexbear federated in, every first impression is that it’s an alt-right troll farm. After some interaction it gets clear quickly that it isn’t.
Just expect us normies to have that first impression.
BUT neither really believe in good faith discussion, it’s mostly trolling and “dunking”.
I do not like tankies but I have absolutely never experienced this, all tankies typically want to do is discuss theory and history to the point that it’s exhausting. Have you talked to any Trotskyists??
It’s way more present since Hexbear federated in, every first impression is that it’s an alt-right troll farm.
I literally never got this impression, it’s like extraordinarily clear that Hexbear is a leftist instance. From the pronouns in names to the leftist jokes lol.
The double sets of pronouns and neopronouns, at first glance, made it look like a satire of gender inclusivity to me.
And after some experience with them it’s clear that it isn’t satire, and they highly value gender inclusivity. My opinion now is that the apparent absurdity is a loyalty test. If you think fae/faer pronouns are silly, you aren’t an “ally” and you are immediately identified as out-group. And the out-group, transpobes, liberals, fascists, all get lumped together so much they can’t distinguish between them.
It’s pretty much exactly what the right wing does. They can’t distinguish between liberals, leftists, tankies, or anarchists, because it’s all just “the enemy” to them.
I do not like tankies but I have absolutely never experienced this, all tankies typically want to do is discuss theory and history to the point that it’s exhausting. Have you talked to any Trotskyists??
I have almost no experience with tankies tbh, so I’ll be the first to say my opinions of them comes mostly from ignorance.
But so far I’ve heard that a “nuanced understanding of geopolitics and history” means you think “NATO made Putin do it”.
… Which is causing people to associate pronouns with “tankie”, making the rest of us non-binary and gender fluid folk look bad in the eyes of others, and we don’t need to be stereotyped or negatively associated with anything right now. Or to have tankies speak or act for us. None of us asked for them to exploit us to make a statement and the fact that they’re using us for cheap propaganda points is something other people need to start calling them on.
Watch one of those stupid motherfuckers cut in with “Think about that for a good five seconds” as if I’m not genderfluid myself and don’t see through what they’re doing. Watch them do it
LMAOOO WHAT?? I’m just using the term they use for themselves.
I ran into a group of Trotskyists once and it turned out they were absurdly boring and wanted me to grab coffee with them for weeks on end before they’d tell me anything, and they apparently read a metric fuckton of theory. So now I know the word Trotskyist. But I guess that makes me a tankie 🤷
No, you’re a tankie. Even in that context normal people never actually use that word. I can sit here and make up bullshit stories too, doesn’t change what you are.
And stop brigading other instances. Go outside and touch grass
Do you think pro-Trump Russian bots are building up anarchist/communist post histories to throw you off?
Of course. They even set up entire subreddits like wayofthebern and walkaway doing this very thing. You must be very naive and inexperienced to never have noticed any of that.
You seem to be under the impression that my beef with Russian trolls is their lack of sincerity. It’s not. If you act like a Russian troll, it makes no difference to me whether you’re being sincere.
Do you think pro-Trump Russian bots are building up anarchist/communist post histories to throw you off? Or that anarchists/communists are de facto Trump supporters by not voting blue no matter who?
I don’t go through people’s comment histories to try to validate them.
And there’s a shocking overlap in vernacular and memes between tankies and alt-right. Obviously they’re diametrically opposed on almost all issues. BUT neither really believe in good faith discussion, it’s mostly trolling and “dunking”. Mix in sarcasm that’s not obvious to an outsider, and the jokes are hard to tell apart from misinformation or “muddying the water”.
It’s way more present since Hexbear federated in, every first impression is that it’s an alt-right troll farm. After some interaction it gets clear quickly that it isn’t.
Just expect us normies to have that first impression.
What’s your normie impression of what lolcatnip is actually saying?
Sorry who is GP in this context?
lolcatnip at the top of this comment chain
My take is that he’s another normie that can’t easily distinguish between trump/russia troll farms and tankies.
I do not like tankies but I have absolutely never experienced this, all tankies typically want to do is discuss theory and history to the point that it’s exhausting. Have you talked to any Trotskyists??
I literally never got this impression, it’s like extraordinarily clear that Hexbear is a leftist instance. From the pronouns in names to the leftist jokes lol.
The double sets of pronouns and neopronouns, at first glance, made it look like a satire of gender inclusivity to me.
And after some experience with them it’s clear that it isn’t satire, and they highly value gender inclusivity. My opinion now is that the apparent absurdity is a loyalty test. If you think fae/faer pronouns are silly, you aren’t an “ally” and you are immediately identified as out-group. And the out-group, transpobes, liberals, fascists, all get lumped together so much they can’t distinguish between them.
It’s pretty much exactly what the right wing does. They can’t distinguish between liberals, leftists, tankies, or anarchists, because it’s all just “the enemy” to them.
I have almost no experience with tankies tbh, so I’ll be the first to say my opinions of them comes mostly from ignorance.
But so far I’ve heard that a “nuanced understanding of geopolitics and history” means you think “NATO made Putin do it”.
… Which is causing people to associate pronouns with “tankie”, making the rest of us non-binary and gender fluid folk look bad in the eyes of others, and we don’t need to be stereotyped or negatively associated with anything right now. Or to have tankies speak or act for us. None of us asked for them to exploit us to make a statement and the fact that they’re using us for cheap propaganda points is something other people need to start calling them on.
Watch one of those stupid motherfuckers cut in with “Think about that for a good five seconds” as if I’m not genderfluid myself and don’t see through what they’re doing. Watch them do it
I’m sorry WHAT
Please tell me this is a shitpost
Look at that, you took two unrelated parts and stripped out all of the context.
That’s what we call bad-faith trolling.
Tankies can be ideologically diametrically opposed to alt-right fascists, yet use the same techniques. For example, they both love bad-faith trolling.
You’re thinking of communists or socialists. They are the ones who talk about theory and praxis.
Tankies are the “the cruelty is the point” gang - don’t care about theory, workers rights, or anything else, and only use it to justify wars.
^^ This guy is a tankie. The fact he’s using the term Trotskyists unironically proves this. Literally no one else except tankies does this.
LMAOOO WHAT?? I’m just using the term they use for themselves.
I ran into a group of Trotskyists once and it turned out they were absurdly boring and wanted me to grab coffee with them for weeks on end before they’d tell me anything, and they apparently read a metric fuckton of theory. So now I know the word Trotskyist. But I guess that makes me a tankie 🤷
This is at least the fourth time I’ve seen lemmitors do this. Righteously indignant about not knowing things.
No, you’re a tankie. Even in that context normal people never actually use that word. I can sit here and make up bullshit stories too, doesn’t change what you are.
And stop brigading other instances. Go outside and touch grass
Where am I brigading other instances???
Of course. They even set up entire subreddits like wayofthebern and walkaway doing this very thing. You must be very naive and inexperienced to never have noticed any of that.
You seem to be under the impression that my beef with Russian trolls is their lack of sincerity. It’s not. If you act like a Russian troll, it makes no difference to me whether you’re being sincere.
No, I’m asking literally.