It is sad, but through the events of the last few years (Reddit, Twitter, politics) companies have realized they can do whatever they want. While they will lose a significant portion of users, the mass majority will stay. The ones that leave are the ones they can’t abuse and they don’t want them anyway. Profit is better taking advantage of the complacent and losing the activists than the other way around.
Anywho, I will move to Firefox just like I moved to lemmy. Although I’m not sure moving to Firefox actually fixes anything other than giving Google less money. Now I just need to figure out how to have a phone without apple or Google getting a peice.
google pixel 5 bought used, unlock the bootloader and flash it with grapheneOS. download Firefox with AdBlock and use fdroid and aurora store (found on fdroid) for apps.
To be fair, the only reason I can see for having a smart fridge is , if you’re at the shops or at work, and you need to check if you need anything, you can just use that.
But, like, I can’t see any other purpose. And even that one is instantly voided by using that magical little thing, and making yourself a list.
I was just using it as an example because I just figured it out on my fridge (it’s useless). I was just trying to figure out if I would be going backwards 10 years if I switched, that was just the first thing that came to mind as an example.
No, you do you. I just don’t understand the engineers’ motivation for creating an IoT fridge.
From the creators of the IoT fridge comes the first IoT toilet, complete with a bowl camera and mic that stares up your ass and notifies your family when the bathroom is in use and whose taking a crap. You can even review your past shits in 4k! 😛
I could maybe see some uses for a fridge on wifi. The only useful things it does is notify me if the temp rises beyond a point or if the door is left open for a really long time. As far as the temp rising without the door open the only cause is either the fridge failed ( It better fucking not) or the power went out. If the power goes out, so does my router so…
That is actually somewhat useful. I don’t know if that use-case is worth it to me, personally, to have a potentially insecure device on my home network, but I suppose you could give it its own network and write decent firewall rules to protect your other gear.
Never really thought about that. Hmm. I mean, it’s GE, a somewhat reputable company, but apparently they were just bought out by a company in China. But it goes through my network, communicates with a cloud service, who communicates with the app on my phone. It would seem possible that whoever runs that cloud service has the ability to do whatever they want in my network through my fridge.
I run a raspberry pi for some automation in my house and use tailscale as a VPN so I can access it as a server when I’m not home. As long as I can trust tailscale, it is encrypted straight from the raspberry pi to my phone. There is no middle man. But having that cloud service for the fridge app is something I need to research.
i mean, they will run. the question is if the app developers hate you.
and since for the most part app developers care about having you as a user so they can sell your personality to advertisers, what i actually mean by “if the app developers hate you” is “if the app is a bank”.
Many banking apps will work on secure roms like calyx/graphene. Techlore set up a submittal system here you can check: https://plexus.techlore.tech/
As a concrete example, it indicates if the app works without google spyware at all vs if it works with the microg spyware simulation service, and indicates my former bank chase has support for migrog but not totally-google-free operation.
However, sadly (and I assume because the head dev of graphene has clear mental disorders and took a massive dump all over techlore for months at a time a couple summers back), somehow the play services question doesnt get answered on the techlore site. For that, you have to go to a different site: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/
sorry ik it’s months later. yes, things work for the most part. anything that doesn’t I just enable exploit protection compatibility mode for and it works no problem then. you can even just straight up install Google play as a normal app without admin privileges.
What really has me paranoid is all the ones suddenly deciding to power trip and give out bans over nothing. We need to create a safe place on the web where the corporations can’t get to us.
They remove any videos that being critical towards TikTok. Especially, they’re trying to flood Indonesian market with cheap Chinese goods via TikTok Shop.
Fairphone 4 from certain vendors comes preloaded with e/OS which is like a deGoogled Android. Might work for people looking to move away from Google. I’m considering it myself for my next phone.
It is sad, but through the events of the last few years (Reddit, Twitter, politics) companies have realized they can do whatever they want. While they will lose a significant portion of users, the mass majority will stay. The ones that leave are the ones they can’t abuse and they don’t want them anyway. Profit is better taking advantage of the complacent and losing the activists than the other way around.
Anywho, I will move to Firefox just like I moved to lemmy. Although I’m not sure moving to Firefox actually fixes anything other than giving Google less money. Now I just need to figure out how to have a phone without apple or Google getting a peice.
google pixel 5 bought used, unlock the bootloader and flash it with grapheneOS. download Firefox with AdBlock and use fdroid and aurora store (found on fdroid) for apps.
Does it run all the android apps? Like, the one off apps for like my fridge, security cameras etc…?
No offense, but wtf does someone need an app for their fridge?
It’s obviously to know what your groceries are doing, while you aren’t looking.
Like Night at the Museum but for a refrigerator. There’s a movie in there somewhere.
Sausage party was that movie. And yes, it was as bad as it sounds.
Lol, should’ve guessed…
To be fair, the only reason I can see for having a smart fridge is , if you’re at the shops or at work, and you need to check if you need anything, you can just use that.
But, like, I can’t see any other purpose. And even that one is instantly voided by using that magical little thing, and making yourself a list.
to ask alexa to buy more milk, duh
its like you dont even 2023
I was just using it as an example because I just figured it out on my fridge (it’s useless). I was just trying to figure out if I would be going backwards 10 years if I switched, that was just the first thing that came to mind as an example.
No, you do you. I just don’t understand the engineers’ motivation for creating an IoT fridge.
From the creators of the IoT fridge comes the first IoT toilet, complete with a bowl camera and mic that stares up your ass and notifies your family when the bathroom is in use and whose taking a crap. You can even review your past shits in 4k! 😛
I could maybe see some uses for a fridge on wifi. The only useful things it does is notify me if the temp rises beyond a point or if the door is left open for a really long time. As far as the temp rising without the door open the only cause is either the fridge failed ( It better fucking not) or the power went out. If the power goes out, so does my router so…
That is actually somewhat useful. I don’t know if that use-case is worth it to me, personally, to have a potentially insecure device on my home network, but I suppose you could give it its own network and write decent firewall rules to protect your other gear.
Never really thought about that. Hmm. I mean, it’s GE, a somewhat reputable company, but apparently they were just bought out by a company in China. But it goes through my network, communicates with a cloud service, who communicates with the app on my phone. It would seem possible that whoever runs that cloud service has the ability to do whatever they want in my network through my fridge.
I run a raspberry pi for some automation in my house and use tailscale as a VPN so I can access it as a server when I’m not home. As long as I can trust tailscale, it is encrypted straight from the raspberry pi to my phone. There is no middle man. But having that cloud service for the fridge app is something I need to research.
i mean, they will run. the question is if the app developers hate you.
and since for the most part app developers care about having you as a user so they can sell your personality to advertisers, what i actually mean by “if the app developers hate you” is “if the app is a bank”.
Many banking apps will work on secure roms like calyx/graphene. Techlore set up a submittal system here you can check: https://plexus.techlore.tech/
As a concrete example, it indicates if the app works without google spyware at all vs if it works with the microg spyware simulation service, and indicates my former bank chase has support for migrog but not totally-google-free operation.
However, sadly (and I assume because the head dev of graphene has clear mental disorders and took a massive dump all over techlore for months at a time a couple summers back), somehow the play services question doesnt get answered on the techlore site. For that, you have to go to a different site: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/
You can get yourself sandboxed Google Play Services and everything should work fine. Personally, I have a separate profile for apps that need it.
sorry ik it’s months later. yes, things work for the most part. anything that doesn’t I just enable exploit protection compatibility mode for and it works no problem then. you can even just straight up install Google play as a normal app without admin privileges.
What really has me paranoid is all the ones suddenly deciding to power trip and give out bans over nothing. We need to create a safe place on the web where the corporations can’t get to us.
TikTok already did this in Indonesia.
They remove any videos that being critical towards TikTok. Especially, they’re trying to flood Indonesian market with cheap Chinese goods via TikTok Shop.
Fairphone 4 from certain vendors comes preloaded with e/OS which is like a deGoogled Android. Might work for people looking to move away from Google. I’m considering it myself for my next phone.
Donate to Pinephone
Wouldn’t it be better to just buy a Pinephone?
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Get an android phone that you can root with an OS.
I’m running a bacon right now!
I’ll soon upgrade to an oxygen(mi max 2) when mi unlock allows me to :(
GrapheneOS. Don’t use Firefox on Android
GrapheneOS is a rom and firefox is a browser
You mean: “use vanadium, which is only available if you have a pixel and the technical skills and can-do to install a thirdparty rom”
Security on Firefox for Android is a significant concern.
not necessarily relevant to my message, but ok. can you provide a list of specific issues or CVEs?