• shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
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    23 days ago

    This is more of a government versus the people fight. No matter what form of government it is. Citizens should have privacy. Although they do not seem to be willing to fight for it. But all governments, no matter what type they are, want control.

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      23 days ago

      Agreed, I’m pretty certain some right wingers don’t want random people snooping around their private stuff as well.

      And most people are unwilling to fight due to this being covered up, with the likes of save the children, or combating the terrorists.

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        23 days ago

        Once it passes, whether it be this year or 10 years from now, people are just going to have to decide to break the law. If everybody breaks the law and there’s basically no possibility of enforcement, then the law doesn’t matter.

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          23 days ago

          That is not entirely accurate. Those laws will be selectively enforced against you in particular, cause they don’t like you. This is a very common tactic in less civilized places. Have rules that no one is following and you have something to hold against your citizens when it suits you. So it does indeed matter.

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          23 days ago

          problem is getting everyone to do revolution at the same time. That’s one of the purposes of mass surveillance, they can detect the early beginnings of organization and send them to prison before it grows into a big snowball.

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        22 days ago

        they also make extreme examples of anyone threatening to “blow it up”, show the public all the corruption and give freedom to the people. Edward Snowden is an example. Also recently Roman Storm the Tornado Cash dev. These extreme attacks from the government are meant to cause fear so no one dares to do anything like that again.