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      JNCO parachute pants, a Korn shirt, wallet chains, and ball-chain necklaces were the uniform of that time period. Gen-Z mushroom tops also have nothing on the all around close shave with long front bangs.

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        Dude, those styles are all coming back. Maybe not the Korm shirt, but the 90s styles are coming back, and early 2000s are coming back in some forms, but I assume we’ll see a return to those things soon. We’re already seein. The weird ugly early 2000s sunglasses, we’ll see low rise jeans come back eventually…it’s all cyclical.

        As a mid-millennial, though, I don’t see many people making fun of gen Z styles? Which of them are people making fun of?

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        I don’t understand why anybody wouldn’t use a chain wallet. You don’t have to worry about your wallet falling out or getting pickpocketed.

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          Does it actually help with pickpockets though? I feel like if anything, it advertises its location, and with a good strong yank the fabric loop is attached to would just rip out.

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            Does it actually help with pickpockets though?

            I’ve never had it stolen, so…perhaps?

            I feel like if anything, it advertises its location

            Where else would it be? Don’t right-handed people store it in their right front pocket? And since most people are right-handed…you’re going to be correct most the time.

            with a good strong yank the fabric loop is attached to would just rip out.

            That would be a helluva strong yank, though, and it would certainly be much more difficult than just lifting the wallet out. Nothing is going to be 100% secure. It’s about making the theft as difficult as possible.

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        The fuckin cockatiel hair cut from the very front to the back bangs lol. Either they were Goth into industrial or house heads. The spikey hair with bleach tips as well.

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    Not understanding and not approving of it are two different things. Millennials love our quirky/scary younger siblings, and I won’t hear otherwise.

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      Yeah Zoomers are great and I can even get down with some of Gen X.

      The hate is for boomers only.

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            Totally. I know a lot of people my age that have forgotten why they voted for Clinton, Gore, and Obama, and are now all in on Trump and actively making the world a shittier place.

            Meanwhile, I started out as a libertarian-leaning Republican in the early 90s, and I’m now an anarchist.

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      Damn right! I was jealous of these kids who had the courage to express themselves how they wanted and explore their identities outside of what was deemed “socially acceptable” back then, and I will fight tooth and nail for kids to be able to do the same today, even if I don’t exactly understand what’s “it” nowadays.

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        I’m almost 40 and sometimes I feel like the only thing I can identify as is a dick. So I try to put that to use for the benefit of others, be a dick to an asshole, save a pussy.

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          Be the change you want to see in the world!

          I decided one day that I was gonna try growing my hair out, as I had it basically buzzed my entire life. I went from that to now having a ponytail so long that it reaches the small of my back (when it’s not in a ponytail I have to be careful that it doesn’t get caught when I put on pants or sit down), and along the way I inspired boys I worked with to try growing their hair out on multiple occasions. One didn’t like how his hair basically turned into an afro and cut it, one has been rocking a shoulder-length viking-esque look for about 8 years now, and the last looks so much like white Jesus that Catholics do a double-take just to make sure the Rapture hasn’t happened.

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          Pot Noodle perm, skinny tracksuit, pedo-stache and man-bag

          You couldn’t make it up

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    I was so attracted to those type of girls when I was in high school.

    Unfortunately, they were never into me :(

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    This shit is still cool! I’m not even going to act ashamed! Hell fucking yeah I dressed like that, and It was motherfucking “epic!”

    Wear whatever you think is cool zoomers, and stop for NO ONE! The moment you start letting others dictate your coolness is when you stop being young.

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    Dear gen Z. You’re currently in your cringe teen phase. One day you’ll look back and mock it with us.

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      Alternatively: the idea of alternative subcultures being “cringe” and worthy of ridicule, attack and condescending bullying like this rightfully dies out with your generation.

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        Elder millennial here. Personally I view this as the kind of good natured ribbing that comes from a healthy relationship between an older and younger sibling. I think our generation (and Gen X too) have an overall positive view of Gen Z, but you are out of your mind if you think we’re going to pass up an opportunity to give them some shit when it’s warranted!

        Rainmanslim’s comment doesn’t strike me as mean-spirited at all. If anything it’s the opposite of condescending because it acknowledges that the cringiness of being a teenager knows no generational bounds. Embrace it and enjoy it, and then enjoy it again when you’re old enough to laugh at your younger self!

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          The same “good natured ribbing” between siblings that people constantly mislabel as such even though it’s simply bullying, but “boys will be boys”, eh? Sibling relationships that are built on laughing at each other are not “cute”.

          Well, guess what, I don’t want to “laugh at my younger self” some time. And I don’t want you to “give me some shit” when you think it’s warranted either. That’s literally just called bullying, and when someone stands up to that, you probably tell them to “learn how to take a joke”. And that’s exactly the mindset (and kind of people) I hope will die out sooner than later.

          I want to be a person I would have been proud of becoming when I was younger. Ridiculing and humiliating people for being vulnerable or expressing themselves leads to the exact kind of political climate we have today, and as a German who is familiar with our history it scares me. The Venn diagram between people who make fun of emos, scene kids, furries or whatever other “cringe” minority of the day in a “good hearted” way, and people who “inadvertently” bully them and drive them to suicide, is probably close to a circle.

          You telling me I will laugh at my younger self some day tells me exactly one thing: that you laugh at me presently and assume I will be the same when I “grow up”. Newsflash: I do not speak to those adults anymore that used to tell me these things about my teen ages because they - unsurprisingly - just bullied me and thought I would grow up to be as hateful as them eventually. And I still don’t laugh at myself when I was a teenager. As an adult, I am very much in tune with who I used to be, and all my scene/emo/outcast friends besides.

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            Mate, that is a whole lot of projection and assumptions in one post. You do you, but I hope someday you learn that being able laugh at yourself is a strength not a weakness.

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              I prefer to appreciate who I am, who I was, and stick to my values. There’s way more strength in defying people who laugh at you than in joining them and betraying what you once stood for merely to appease them.

              The arrogance of telling someone that “someday” I might “learn” to laugh at myself is astounding given that I am probably older than you.

              I would prefer to live in a world where nobody laughs at people, and where people are proud who they were, who they have become; instead of constantly looking back in embarrassment and shame.

              … Just think what hill you’re willing to die on here. A hill defending the idea of “giving people some shit” (your words) when they dress or act the way you find embarrassing. When did peer pressure like this become a virtue?

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                Man, if you are in your 40s and still clinging to this idea that you’ve never done anything embarrassing in your life, have never teased a buddy for something stupid they have done, and feel the need to get all self-righteous on me for enjoying friendly banter between strangers then I don’t know what else there is to say here.

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                  I will just confidently go into the future knowing that I show compassion and you pride yourself on laughing at people. That’s all the future generations need to know about the 21st century.

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            There is a reason “learn to laugh at yourself” is a recurring quote from many people.

            This is all this is, to learn to laugh at your younger self. No one is saying your feelings or thoughts as a teenager are invalid but perspectives and priorities change when you get older and the things that make you feel and act that way will seem trivial and therefore silly.

            There is a reason this is a recurring theme between generations. Sorry but your generation is no different. It is not bullying, it is learning to look back at your younger self and see that the difficulties you were facing were relatively trivial even if they didn’t feel that way at the time.

            Also please remember your sentiment the next time you see one of these memes “attacking” millennials. Basically the way you’ve formed your argument here is that this meme in this OP is “bullying” millennials.

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              There is a reason “learn to laugh at yourself” is a recurring quote from many people.

              Yes, people who laugh at others expect them to grow into their bigotry. I do not laugh at my younger self. I appreciate who I was, who I am, and who I will become. I am proud of scene kids, emo kids, and all the other “alternative” kids who constantly get told they’ll turn into hateful little old adults some day.

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      last time I checked the youngest gen z are already young adults

      The youngest gen z are Indeed in the cringe phase, but many are already over that

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        A quick Google search puts the birth year range for Gen Z between 1997 and 2012, so between ages 9 and 24. That’s like peak teenage years. You have some younger than that, some older than that, but the majority are going to be right in the middle. Plus, as much as 20 year olds like to pretend that that aren’t cringey teenagers anymore, that behavior doesn’t just change on your 20th birthday, it’s a process that happens over time. I’d say I still had cringey teenager tendencies until I was at least 22 or 23.

        I’d say what the person above you said is perfectly accurate. Gen Zs are pretty much in peak teenage years right now.

        Edit: so I think the article Google gave me was 2 years old. Still, it would put Gen Zs between ages 11 and 26. I think the point still mostly stands.

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          Quick question where did you get a time machine from? I did not know they were already invented in 2021. /s

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            That’s what I get for copying what I saw on Google instead of doing the math myself. I’ll take the L on this one. 😅

            It was probably a two year old article that Google used in their “answer”

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    Side note: how in the ever loving fuck did the creators of Invader Zim convince the Nickelodeon execs that it was a “kids show” - and not just once, but for two seasons?

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      Are you talking about the same Nickelodeon that showed Ren and Stimpy and Rocko’s Modern Life?

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      It’s pretty crazy. Jhonen Vasquez’s most notable work previously was literally a comic about a guy who kidnapped people to murder in his basement, so it’s not like they didn’t know what they were in for.

      Invader Zim has an episode where he is concerned that a school health inspection will out him as an alien so he begins systematically hunting down the other children and harvesting their organs to stuff inside his own body until he’s a bloated monstrosity.

      Nickelodeon Execs: “This is fine.”

      The funny thing is that it might have been on the air even longer if the show wasn’t costing so much money. They were recording voice lines for some characters while the actor was suspended from a sort of crane-mechanism. Weird stuff all around.

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      Nah nickelodeon had weird shows at the time, Zim was tamer than a few shows, what boggles my mind is that someone in nickelodeon even agreed to TALK to Vasquez given his portfolio, like, some exec in nickelodeon read a bit of JtHM and went “yeah, this guy got something the kids would like”

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      I’ve been playing the ratchet and clank pc port and one of the voice actors definitely vocied Zim. It’s so distinguishable.

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        Totally. Kids are pretty much wearing 90s punk and grunge clothing. My 9 year old daughter will probably start raiding my wife’s cupboard of old clothes she kept from that era.

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          My kid is wearing my old band shirts that are worth hundreds of dollars now.

          I can’t afford the expensive shit for her, but she’s definitely got bragging rights. A kid made fun of her last year over her “old faded shirt” and she said, “my shirt is worth more than your whole outfit. Google it honey.” Haha

          I’m letting her slowly ruin a Nirvana shirt that’s worth about a thousand bucks. It hurts a little (a lot), but when I was a teen I would have killed for original things like that from the Beatles. I only make her retire the sentimental ones when I know they won’t hold up. Like my original SOAD toxicity release shirt that glows in the dark. It was the last thing my best friend bought for me before he was killed in an accident.

          I’d wear them until they started showing signs that they wouldn’t last too much longer and then I’d put them away. Now she’s getting the rest of their life.

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          I remember my sister raiding my dad’s closet for flannel during the grunge era. He was happy to give them to her but was very confused as to why she wanted them.

          I just hope Aquanet doesn’t come back.

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      I thought the point of this post is that the kids are wearing it again these days?

      Honestly I see teenagers in my town and they just look the same as teenagers did 20 years ago. I feel like styles are staying the same.

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    I was that age in 2006 and that style was strange to me back then as well

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      Same. Even as a metalhead adjacent to them, they were still a strange breed of kids. They were harmless though. I couldn’t stand the kids that shit on them for entertainment.

      It’s kinda weird and heartwarming to be 30 something and see that style making a comeback. I hope they live as weird a life as we did back then.

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      Same, was in high school '04-'08 and maybe 1% of the kids dressed like that. Most of us just wore jeans and t-shirts, and had short haircuts.

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    If you’d told me I’d miss 2006 back in 2006 I’d have laughed.

    Let the kids have their cringe phase

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    As an elder Millennial, I’m left wondering WTF I missed in 2006?!? All the girls in high school were wearing Doc Martins, turtle necks, and low-cut jeans while sporting streaky highlights in their hair, and all of the girls in college were wearing Uggs and puffy coats with faux-fur hoods. There was none of… Whatever this is.

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      This is the “scene kid” aesthetic that was popular in the mid aughts. They barely made the millennial cutoff as far as I’m concerned and they’re not very representative of our generation as a whole.

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      Scene kids was a period after goths and before hipsters. It peaked before Myspace was taken over by Facebook. So like 2007-2009. By the time most of them moved on to college, hipsters became a thing and a lot of them grew into that or conformed in some way.

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        Aye. Peak highschool for me.

        Started college in '09 and the scene kid was gone.

        I was actually a little disappointed, I understood it

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          Yeah, it’s amazing how quickly it came and went. By the time I graduated highschool in 10 it was already falling out of fashion. You could still kinda tell who was apart of it though. The clown makeup went away, but the bangs remained for a while.

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      Same. Sigh.

      I think the world’s evolving (or devolving) too fast for these broad generational categories to define us anymore.

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        Eh. Generations are defined by a lot more than what clothes someone wore or what TV shows were being broadcast. Those things move quickly. Generations are usually marked by larger cultural touchstones.

        There are quite a few ways to try and slice the Millennial/Gen Z divide, for instance. An easy-on-paper ones are things like what generation your parents belonged to (Boomers/Gen X, respectively), for instance, though that just kind of pushes the issue back to a different generational divide. Or there’s the “do you remember the world before 9/11 happened?” metric. These point to differences in parenting, or differences in the larger socio-political culture within which one had their formative years, and they’re far, far wider reaching than fast fashion.

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          Millennials are a strange generation because I feel like elder millennials and younger millennials are kind of divided by whether they remember a time before the Internet went mainstream or not.

          To your point, another dividing line for Millennials and Gen Z is that Gen Z kids’ first phone was probably a smart phone and they probably got theirs a couple years younger on average than millennials.

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              I agree, and I think categorizing generations is always going to be messy. But I think the Oregon Trail Generation/Xennials just seems to be more distinct than most other micro generations. I’m pretty much in the middle of the commonly accepted millennial age bracket and would still consider myself more of a Xennial based off the broad characteristics that have been described, despite falling outside that rough '86 cutoff by a couple years. I know part of it is probably due to how much Millennials get shat on, but it feels like the “Millennial Generation” is an especially weird generation where half the people that are supposedly in it don’t feel like they belong with the other half and many resent the label. To me, the Millennials born after '90 seem quite distinct from those born before '87 and I feel like I’m in the middle and identify more with the Xennials. I’m no sociologist, though, this is just my limited subjective experience.

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          Can’t really go off parents’ generation. Some people have kids at 16 and some at 45. I’m millennial with Gen X parents because they had me when they were young. I have a sister 15 years younger than me, who is Gen Z. We had very different experiences growing up, but share a parent.

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            No generational rule is hard and fast. They’re all broad stroke generalities.

            You can’t even go based on year, because sociologists disagree on which years to use.

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      Yeah this wasn’t 2006 really and was more like 2009-2010 when the “scene” scene got “big”.

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      I was one of those weird raver kids with all the neon colors and intustrial-esqe accoutrements. I remember scene kids but that set was younger than me.