I assume Genocide Joe refers to Biden? He’s not the one saying he won’t sign a budget that doesn’t fund the IDF.
And given our two-party system, our alternative is an autocratic fascist.
As much as I appreciate anti-genocide sentiments and pushes towards sustainable energy, in the US we’re not going to get officials into either without extremely radical change here in the states.
Given Biden’s position as a neo-liberal, his efforts on both fronts are better than we expected from him. (Though his nomination was worse than we expected from the Democratic party, but that is what we can expect from the lesser evil.)
Disarmament is feasible (and very smart, because war is a terrible waste) if the other side is understanding and willing. In the 1980-ties, the USSR under Gorbachev was willing to mutually reduce nuclear weapons. Gorbachev also ended the attempt to make Afghanistan into a Soviet satellite state and loosened the rules in the Soviet bloc enough for most of Eastern Europe to leave the bloc. Russia under Putin has not shown any willingness to widthdraw or disarm. In fact, it is making desperate attempts to restart all the Soviet military industries, double down and overwhelm Ukraine.
(for those unaware: the war is Gaza is statistically a gang shootout compared to the war in Ukraine, the intensity differs so much that I’m not even addressing it - it’s practically over, Hamas attacked and lost)
NATO countries are of course increasing military production - ironically at such a leisurely pace that EU has been able to supply some 0.3 million of the 1 million shells promised to Ukraine, while North Korea has been able to hand 2 million shells to Russia. I don’t see a case for claiming that NATO is arming too fast. I see a case for claiming that NATO is arming ridiculously slow, at a pace which might allow Russia to force an unfavourable deal on Ukraine.
I would predict: if Putin wins in Ukraine, or gets considerable parts of Ukraine as war spoils, in a decade’s time, the next war will be Russia vs. Eastern Europe. Most of the warring parties will be NATO members then. And indeed, those countries (Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria) - they have all rapidly raised their military production and purchases.
About escalation: so far, all the long-range offensive weapons supplied by NATO have come with the strict condition that they may not be fired at Russian territory, and Ukraine has respected that - firing them only at occupied Ukrainian territory. Not a single ATACMS or Storm Shadow has landed in a Russian nuclear bunker, not to mention a seat of government. Ukraine is using Western missiles to shoot at its own (occupied) territory, hardly an escalation.
(a side note: Ukrainian-made drones do land in Russia regularly, mostly destroying aircraft that would bomb Ukraine - and World War 3 has not broken out because of that)
To finish up, I’d like to point out that the US is not even scheduled to give airplanes to Ukraine. The F-16 planes are being given by Denmark and the Netherlands.
P.S.
What’s the rationale for calling Biden “Genocide Joe”? If that’s an appropriate nickname, what do we call heads of state who start an actual war? :o
P.P.S.
Problems have differing levels of urgency. Wars tend to have the highest. Several EU countries have indeed been forced to scale back their climate plans because they don’t have enough money to make the green transition and help Ukraine defend against Russia at the same time. The rise in interest rates has also contributed - it’s harder to finance projects with a loan. However, they have also made incredibly fast pace at curbing their use of Russian oil and gas. Ironically, by proving what a fine seller Russia is (“run for the hills” grade of fine), Putin has contributed greatly to the transition off fossil fuels. Once he’s deposed, tried and jailed, he should get a medal for that. :)
Disappointed with the shitty comments I’m seeing. Yes, Russia supports Trump, but it does not follow that my objection to genocide, militarism, colonialism, and accelerating the climate crisis makes me a Russian asset. That would be like me saying everyone who shitposts here is an Israel asset in favor of genocide.
What do you think would happen if the US would stop supporting Ukraine? Putin would just peacefully stop trying to conquer Ukraine? Or do you think ukrainians would just give up? They wouldn’t. I live in a neighbouring country, i know many of them. They all know 100% that if Ukraine looses the war in any way, then Putin will completely exterminate every last one of them, that he can get his hand on. Just like he’s been doing over the last two years.
So by arguing that the US should stop it’s support, you’re directly and inseparably arguing for Putin to be able to genocide tens of millions of ukrainans, as well as for the complete destruction of Ukraine.
This is why people are calling you a russian agent. Of course, it’s unknowable for us, whether you are really are, but you are certainly doing their bidding for them.
It’s sad that too many people cannot comprehend that someone might not want to pick a side. At this point in history, several empires fight for power over the planet and seem to be happily headed towards WWIII, and while they do so damage the planet even more. I’d rather have zero empires. And I certainly don’t want to fight a war for any abstract concept that just exists to funnel even more money into the pockets of the rich.
On the other hand, just because I was accidentally born in Europe, and as I profit from the system Europe has in place, it’s like my side has been picked for me. Which is being some sort of US vassal. And I agree US needs to fix their internal problems not play world police at this point in time. And if the choice is between being a sort of appendix of either fascist US or fascist Russia I frankly don’t fucking care anymore, hope they all go under rather sooner than later and let Europe be Europe.
@AEMarling is an established SLRPNK member, book author, and image artist.
Anti-militarism is not exclusively a Russian statist position. Please give your fellow members the benefit of doubt when it comes to accusations of being a state agent.
So the image is about climate and solar power. What is this crappy editorialization in the title and synopsis? If you really think Biden is “genocide Joe” hurtling towards ww3 you’re going to love the return of Trump. Why not discourage some more D voters.
I recommmend analyzing the strategies of the so-called New Left during the 1960s-70s. Their ability to disrupt the status-quo and bring attention to the State’s death machine can’t be understated. For a starting point - check out the direct action tactics used by the Weather Underground.
By fighting imperialist ideas and people pushing them. By fighting for a rules-based world order. Right now the best defense of the “indutrial-military complex” is that it is necessary, which is sadly true. If you don’t like it, remove its reasons to be necessary.
After 2 GWB presidency and a Trump one, there is not much trust left to flush anyway. Biden is trying to restore some but has to deal with toddlers in the House.
You know, you’re really telling on yourself with this kind of statement.
Democrats are upset with Biden’s actions because they are not a monolith. You can support a politician, and still be upset with his actions. It’s called the duality of being human.
If you’re expecting democrats to commit to everything their leader says and does without a single critical thought, even if what they’re saying contradicts what they previously said, then you’re looking at the wrong party, bud. That’s the behavior of Trump Republicans, and Trump Republicans exclusively.
Democrats expect me to pretend that just because they’re better than Republicans they’re immune to criticism. Theyre acting like trump Republicans in that regard.
A Trump presidency would result in precisely nill fewer deaths in Palestine and more deaths domestically as the same bigoted rage on display in the Gaza strip would be celebrated and supported at home. I’m sorry it is that way, but both parties are married to Zionism. It may be possible to push the Dems away from this over time, but hear me now, Palestine and Israel going hot and sparking a global conflict is the primary motivation for Evangelical Republicans. It is a feature of their literal eschatology. They will not be disentangled from their religious motivation of ending the actual fucking world. And they’ll cheer and laugh as the world watches Israeli boots crush infant skulls until Muslim world is incensed enough to want open conflict on Israel.
Trump will also end all aid to Ukraine immediately, effectively handing it over to Putin, while enacting a genocide he has boasted about on Central Americans in the US. Bashing Biden like this is about the stupidest shit possible since there is no other realistic choice for President and it helps Trump.
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I assume Genocide Joe refers to Biden? He’s not the one saying he won’t sign a budget that doesn’t fund the IDF.
And given our two-party system, our alternative is an autocratic fascist.
As much as I appreciate anti-genocide sentiments and pushes towards sustainable energy, in the US we’re not going to get officials into either without extremely radical change here in the states.
Given Biden’s position as a neo-liberal, his efforts on both fronts are better than we expected from him. (Though his nomination was worse than we expected from the Democratic party, but that is what we can expect from the lesser evil.)
Where are the mods to remove this trash?
If you want more context or won’t take my word on how militarism will kill is all, you can read this article.
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Strongly disagree.
Disarmament is feasible (and very smart, because war is a terrible waste) if the other side is understanding and willing. In the 1980-ties, the USSR under Gorbachev was willing to mutually reduce nuclear weapons. Gorbachev also ended the attempt to make Afghanistan into a Soviet satellite state and loosened the rules in the Soviet bloc enough for most of Eastern Europe to leave the bloc. Russia under Putin has not shown any willingness to widthdraw or disarm. In fact, it is making desperate attempts to restart all the Soviet military industries, double down and overwhelm Ukraine.
(for those unaware: the war is Gaza is statistically a gang shootout compared to the war in Ukraine, the intensity differs so much that I’m not even addressing it - it’s practically over, Hamas attacked and lost)
NATO countries are of course increasing military production - ironically at such a leisurely pace that EU has been able to supply some 0.3 million of the 1 million shells promised to Ukraine, while North Korea has been able to hand 2 million shells to Russia. I don’t see a case for claiming that NATO is arming too fast. I see a case for claiming that NATO is arming ridiculously slow, at a pace which might allow Russia to force an unfavourable deal on Ukraine.
I would predict: if Putin wins in Ukraine, or gets considerable parts of Ukraine as war spoils, in a decade’s time, the next war will be Russia vs. Eastern Europe. Most of the warring parties will be NATO members then. And indeed, those countries (Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria) - they have all rapidly raised their military production and purchases.
About escalation: so far, all the long-range offensive weapons supplied by NATO have come with the strict condition that they may not be fired at Russian territory, and Ukraine has respected that - firing them only at occupied Ukrainian territory. Not a single ATACMS or Storm Shadow has landed in a Russian nuclear bunker, not to mention a seat of government. Ukraine is using Western missiles to shoot at its own (occupied) territory, hardly an escalation.
(a side note: Ukrainian-made drones do land in Russia regularly, mostly destroying aircraft that would bomb Ukraine - and World War 3 has not broken out because of that)
To finish up, I’d like to point out that the US is not even scheduled to give airplanes to Ukraine. The F-16 planes are being given by Denmark and the Netherlands.
P.S.
What’s the rationale for calling Biden “Genocide Joe”? If that’s an appropriate nickname, what do we call heads of state who start an actual war? :o
P.P.S.
Problems have differing levels of urgency. Wars tend to have the highest. Several EU countries have indeed been forced to scale back their climate plans because they don’t have enough money to make the green transition and help Ukraine defend against Russia at the same time. The rise in interest rates has also contributed - it’s harder to finance projects with a loan. However, they have also made incredibly fast pace at curbing their use of Russian oil and gas. Ironically, by proving what a fine seller Russia is (“run for the hills” grade of fine), Putin has contributed greatly to the transition off fossil fuels. Once he’s deposed, tried and jailed, he should get a medal for that. :)
Disappointed with the shitty comments I’m seeing. Yes, Russia supports Trump, but it does not follow that my objection to genocide, militarism, colonialism, and accelerating the climate crisis makes me a Russian asset. That would be like me saying everyone who shitposts here is an Israel asset in favor of genocide.
What do you think would happen if the US would stop supporting Ukraine? Putin would just peacefully stop trying to conquer Ukraine? Or do you think ukrainians would just give up? They wouldn’t. I live in a neighbouring country, i know many of them. They all know 100% that if Ukraine looses the war in any way, then Putin will completely exterminate every last one of them, that he can get his hand on. Just like he’s been doing over the last two years.
So by arguing that the US should stop it’s support, you’re directly and inseparably arguing for Putin to be able to genocide tens of millions of ukrainans, as well as for the complete destruction of Ukraine.
This is why people are calling you a russian agent. Of course, it’s unknowable for us, whether you are really are, but you are certainly doing their bidding for them.
It’s sad that too many people cannot comprehend that someone might not want to pick a side. At this point in history, several empires fight for power over the planet and seem to be happily headed towards WWIII, and while they do so damage the planet even more. I’d rather have zero empires. And I certainly don’t want to fight a war for any abstract concept that just exists to funnel even more money into the pockets of the rich.
On the other hand, just because I was accidentally born in Europe, and as I profit from the system Europe has in place, it’s like my side has been picked for me. Which is being some sort of US vassal. And I agree US needs to fix their internal problems not play world police at this point in time. And if the choice is between being a sort of appendix of either fascist US or fascist Russia I frankly don’t fucking care anymore, hope they all go under rather sooner than later and let Europe be Europe.
Using a word like “Genocide Joe” means they’ve already chosen a side
We need a report propaganda button for 2024
Bruh stop trying to make “Genocide Joe” happen
Oh look, Russian propaganda coming to lemmy! That’s proof of growth here!
@AEMarling is an established SLRPNK member, book author, and image artist.
Anti-militarism is not exclusively a Russian statist position. Please give your fellow members the benefit of doubt when it comes to accusations of being a state agent.
I am done with finding excuses to the enablers of imperialism. Whether they do it out of corruption or idiocy.
So the image is about climate and solar power. What is this crappy editorialization in the title and synopsis? If you really think Biden is “genocide Joe” hurtling towards ww3 you’re going to love the return of Trump. Why not discourage some more D voters.
Genocide Joe… OP are you a child?
Hopefully not a child - sorry, “under 18 combatant” - in Gaza. We all know how that would turn out
Curious to know how US residents could possibly go about shutting down the military-industrial complex.
I recommmend analyzing the strategies of the so-called New Left during the 1960s-70s. Their ability to disrupt the status-quo and bring attention to the State’s death machine can’t be understated. For a starting point - check out the direct action tactics used by the Weather Underground.
By fighting imperialist ideas and people pushing them. By fighting for a rules-based world order. Right now the best defense of the “indutrial-military complex” is that it is necessary, which is sadly true. If you don’t like it, remove its reasons to be necessary.
“Genocide Joe”. Nice. I wonder if US democrats fully comprehend the support they’re flushing with their current foreign policy.
After 2 GWB presidency and a Trump one, there is not much trust left to flush anyway. Biden is trying to restore some but has to deal with toddlers in the House.
You know, you’re really telling on yourself with this kind of statement.
Democrats are upset with Biden’s actions because they are not a monolith. You can support a politician, and still be upset with his actions. It’s called the duality of being human.
If you’re expecting democrats to commit to everything their leader says and does without a single critical thought, even if what they’re saying contradicts what they previously said, then you’re looking at the wrong party, bud. That’s the behavior of Trump Republicans, and Trump Republicans exclusively.
Democrats expect me to pretend that just because they’re better than Republicans they’re immune to criticism. Theyre acting like trump Republicans in that regard.
This isn’t an unpopular tax cut. It’s genocide.
A Trump presidency would result in precisely nill fewer deaths in Palestine and more deaths domestically as the same bigoted rage on display in the Gaza strip would be celebrated and supported at home. I’m sorry it is that way, but both parties are married to Zionism. It may be possible to push the Dems away from this over time, but hear me now, Palestine and Israel going hot and sparking a global conflict is the primary motivation for Evangelical Republicans. It is a feature of their literal eschatology. They will not be disentangled from their religious motivation of ending the actual fucking world. And they’ll cheer and laugh as the world watches Israeli boots crush infant skulls until Muslim world is incensed enough to want open conflict on Israel.
Trump will also end all aid to Ukraine immediately, effectively handing it over to Putin, while enacting a genocide he has boasted about on Central Americans in the US. Bashing Biden like this is about the stupidest shit possible since there is no other realistic choice for President and it helps Trump.
Biden doesn’t get a pass on genocide simply because the alternative is worse.
Okay, fine. Biden sucks for that. There, he didn’t get a pass.