I discovered this after upgrading our instance yesterday, which also upgraded all frontends to their latest versions as well. After I did, our Tesseract frontend stopped working and I noticed immediately as it’s been my primary for a while. Initially I thought it was an API version mismatch, but no, it was much worse.
Someone pointed out that the developer of the frontend added an explicit hidden and unmodifiably blacklist which includes any and all instances to the left of Kissinger. There’s a commit which also explains their specious reasoning about our instance specifically, as it seems we’ve been on their shit list for a bit longer than that.
This instance and its admin staff encourages identity politics, groupthink, mob mentality, and extremist solutions to societal problems. Users who advocate violence are not moderated so long as the admins agree with the target. Caution and critical thinking are advised when interacting with this instance or its users.
When you use tesseract to connect to one blacklisted such instance , you just get a message informing you that Tesseract is “incompatible with that instance” which leads one to think of a technical issue, like an API mismatch, rather than the dev being an opinionated coward.
Isn’t it funny how all the software developed by turbolibs, like Piefed and Tesseract, end up with hidden control mechanisms from developers who think they know better than everyone else? That they don’t just think they deserve to tell you what you should think, but they should manipulate you to think it? Isn’t it funny how libs go on about how bad it is to support lemmy due to the ideology of the devs behind it, and yet lemmy has 0 opinions as a software? It does make one think…
Anyway, I forked - it as one does - and disabled the blacklist, but since this is a massively ideologically compromised software, I’ll doubt I’ll keep this frontend up after Lemmy 1.0. I think we’ll bring up mlmym again now that someone’s maintaining it again.
Call me crazy but I don’t think that maga.place is a lefty instance
You don’t understand! Freedom of speech is only good when it’s freedom of their speech!
But seriously, this recent shift of project leads deciding what users should and shouldn’t see is concerning. And honestly, I could give them the benefit of the doubt if they added it as some sort of opt-in list. But no.
They will force their narrative down the users’ throats.
I might not always agree with db0, the Anarchist Flotilla, or the “Tankie Triad”. But whatever shakes Lemmy right now, consider me an ally. Whatever these egocentric folks attempt to create, it is everything Lemmy was created to replace.
Also, that’s a lovely list they made of places to follow.
Devs like this do not belong with open source projects.
I agree. People who do this are emotionally compromised and in my opinion can’t be trusted when writing code. There was a different developer who through similar political convictions made his software wipe PCs that were in Russia or Belarus. Maybe that seems more extreme but it comes from the same politically charged and emotionally compromised place.
Fascist bootlickers you mean?
Fuck me…
ugggggghhhhhh
Our ‘liberals’ aren’t liberal.
That comment you highlighted just reads like a jordanlund modlog defending genocide by way of banning someone who says ‘genociders should die instead, actually’.
They can’t help themselves from being elitists.
Its like they’re hardwired, they’re so incredibly insecure that they front this moral superiority god complex, and anything that challenges the actual logic of that morality is fundamentally evil… because they can’t be wrong.
These people are confused… they’re reactionary conservatives, they’re wannabe politicos/consultants… literal thought police, frame keepers of the overton window.
There’s a commit which also explains their specious reasoning about our instance specifically, as it seems we’ve been on their shit list for a bit longer than that.
As of that commit (April 29) the instance blacklist didn’t even include lemmy.ml !
… but i see a month later they added us in this commit, while removing a large list of specific users and communities which they were also previously hiding content from.
Damn, missed the hall of fame club.
wow, i expected you’d make the cut, but i guess you just weren’t posting hard enough.
meanwhile @CARCOSA@hexbear.net is not only on the list but was honored with a personal regex and a comment line!
Honestly surprised, considering how much reactionaries hate me. Still, shout out to @CARCOSA@hexbear.net !
Well well well
export let CONTENT_WARNING_INSTANCES = [ { domain: "lemmy.dbzer0.com", reason: `This instance and its admin staff encourages identity politics, groupthink, mob mentality, and extremist solutions to societal problems. Users who advocate violence are not moderated so long as the admins agree with the target. Caution and critical thinking are advised when interacting with this instance or its users.` }, ]identity politics
GODDAMMIT I HAVE TO FIGHT THE WOKE WITH MY CODE!!!
I consider it a badge of honor that we were the OG “identity politics, groupthink, mob mentality, and extremist solutions to societal problems” instance before it was cool.
There is a good reason to have crowdsourced filters for spammers and chuds, but this shit ain’t the way.
Users who advocate violence are not moderated so long as the admins agree with the target
are they wrong though?
We’re not pacifists, no
Not wrong, but the target of violence being fascists is not a bad thing. The Dev is hiding that fact and pretending all violence is inherently equal. It’s the same logic Zionists use to demonize Palestinian resistance groups.
Yeah, actually, this is a huge problem I have with the larger Fediverse. Not just one instance.
The dev still approached it the wrong way though. It’s no excuse.
I want my Fediverse like Reddit, where you get banned for saying Hitler should have been killed but white supremacism is allowed.
Hitler is dead. Of course Reddit sucks.
But I don’t think we should explicitly advocate for the death of living people.
So brave very adult.
Cops, landlords, and (x)illionaires have withheld their humanity to “make a living” and so the same sentiment should be expressed towards them.
I had stopped using it, but I found the Bias checks useful, but then I looked more into https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ and how the classify certain sites (like Times of Israel somewhat is left-center-leaning lol) and gave up on it. This blocklist of instances is ridiculous.
Like Snopes, they had a decent start but ran aground when they allowed their liberalism to creep in more and more as pushback against reactionaries. When chuds got upset for being called out as the conservatives they are (instead of getting called “moderates” or “centrists”), they aggressively tried to discredit the site. MBFC doubled-down on stuff like the New York Times being “leftwing” because obviously if the far right says something is far left, then it must be far left because why else would they hate it?
“Do you really think conservatives would do that? Just lie about their beliefs while accusing their opponents of hiding theirs? Surely that would be irrational and in bad faith!” thinks the libs over at Media Bias.
Ye the Media Bias Check was cringe but I could ignore it until now.
The commit history of that file (not naming it denylist is telling enough, tbh) is hilarious!
Shadowbanning users in the client, telling users they are subscribed to the wrong communities, it has everything lol
Lol what do they have against archive sites??
It’s against copyright and therefore evil per liberal thought processes. Think about the artists and all that tripe.
Imagine being so liberal you think that news should be gated by paywalls and not freely available for the masses.
There’s something about the archive.is owner using it to ddos some blog threatening to dox them
Sure, but blocking archive.org? and web.archive.org? That’s just weird.
Oh yeah that’s weird
Amazing how these projects keep killing themselves by alienating huge portions of their userbase. Hard to survive in a FOSS environment by being extremely reactionary.
There is nothing wrong about adding default filters to the software(whenever they are acceptable by others or not). The problem is that this should be done via a separate data file from which code extracts strings and not be hardcoded, as it is against the programming etiquette. Also, this file with filter data shouldn’t be hidden or obscured, so that others can modify it as they want.
Etiquette aside, this is just functionally bad. It took db0 months to notice because the frontend didn’t get updated until an instance upgrade. Seems like that would be pretty common and vary widely between instances, making updating the list a slow, unreliable process. Even if they wanted to censor sites themselves, it would’ve made more sense to have the list itself remotely hosted so it could be updated without waiting for full instance upgrades some months later.
this stuff should never ever be hardcoded.
What a pathetic thing to do
addy.io,mozmail.com(Firefox Relay) and evenproton.meinTHROWAWAY_EMAIL_DOMAINS. No Simplelogin/Proton pass thoughBut yet cumallover.me (owned by the chud at cock.li) is allowed
only palantir allowed
I wish emails/SMTP was illegal. Hate it when I join webservices that ask me to use another protocol to authenticate my tired face. There’s 0 reasons to 2FA, even Kerberos, outside the protocol one is using.
every so often you get to hear an opinion that’s offensive not because of any bigotry, but just because it’s assnine.
It’s spelled “asinine” but I do like “assnine” lol
whoops. I’ve been spelling it wrong my entire life then. oh well! 😅🤣
You could generate a temporary mail address with guerilliamail
I appreciate your suggestion, but my conversation is above your academic title. If you don’t have a CCNA or a bachelor’s degree in CS, I urge you to disengage, or catch up.
What an odd response
Odd in the sense that you prefer to invite farmers to a technology expo, or odd in not wanting to engage with uneducated folks in a highly technical conversation?
Do you think farmers don’t go to technology expos?
what’s wrong with you?
uh okay
Sorry kiddo, you wouldn’t get it. Please disengage
Requiring an email for signup is silly. Requiring an email for sign up and also prescribing which services you can use is even sillier.
Good on you for making that fork. What a bunch of nerds.
Also seems to include queer instances like blahaj.zone, which is… Interesting. Blahaj is pretty tame I think as far as leftist politics goes, but is explicitly a trans instance, so I can’t help but think that’s the reason they are being blocked.
Also, I have never seen this app, but is it useful at all? If there is any value, would it be worth it to fork it and make a better version with the hidden blocklist removed?
EDIT: Derp. I somehow missed that it was already forked with the blacklist removed.
Itself is a fork of the photon frontend, so ultimately it’s not as important to fork it imho. I liked using it because it integrated the fediseer and had some tweaks I liked, but the dev’s actions and opinionated design eclipsed those benefits.
lmfao. What a weirdo. Gotta be top 10 most pathetic things in software dev.
Also holy fuck I would be ready with the cluebat if I wasted my time troubleshooting sabotage.
Didn’t help that the latest update opened some doors to the all-oppressing chinese botnet scrapers and brought the instance to its knees. I was up until 3am firefighting yesterday.
I thought you were running iocane or one of those fake link mazes?
Did it have some way to hit the DB past it? How?
Man remember when it just kinda worked to use robots.txt (ok Baidu always misbehaved but it didn’t always exist). The internet used to be so cool if you were one of the weirdos initiated to the mysteries.
I 'member. Capitalism ruins everything…
We do run iocaine but that only takes care of known spam subnets and scraping agents. You need to know who to target to send in iocaine first. In front of that we have haphash which is a PoW. We don’t use it site-wide though, as we’re ok people scraping well-cached things like our frontpage. We use it on dynamic content like comments which scrapers love to scrape by the millions, each of them causing a DB query which we cannot cache.
It seems that new lemmy added some new url paths which I didn’t know about (I think
/comment/is new, before it was all just/post/) which the botnmets discovered after a few hours and started scraping. On top of that I noticed that some scrapers were using random wildcard domain to go to the main site, so I punted those to iocaine as well.
top ten most pathetic things
Mayb-
in software Dev
Lol no. Up there, though.
Name 10 things more pathetic.
Not cringe, not evil, pathetic!
No. I stay the hell away from those people. Was my whole childhood and I’ve mostly repressed those memories.
Well then, conceed the point dear fetishist :p
Never, only that I cannot cite individual examples.
