• w3dd1e@lemmy.zip
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    Tank Man was disappeared after this. A Reagan admin official claimed he was executed after this.

    Some other guy claims he shared a prison cell with him and he was supposedly still imprisoned as of 2017.

    The only people claiming that he wasn’t killed or arrested is the Chinese Communist Party.

    /doubt

    EDIT: are you all bots? Why do so many of you believe the CCP is better than ICE? Like they aren’t disappearing people and committing genocide but sure.

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        While making his whereabouts fizzle out like that makes people not idolize that man, as we have seen that when you put the face of every mass shooter in the front page of every news outlet it just inspired a few more copycats.

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        That more North Korean Style. The Chinese are all about saving face which means sweeping problems under the rug.

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      Some guy in the US and some unspecified guy of unknown age or location both claimed completely contradictory things, therefore the idea that neither of those things happened is false. Checkmate tankies!

      Are you really that fucking stupid?

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        Are you so fucking stupid that you think the CCP would ban this footage and just let the guy walk away?

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          You’re the one making the claim. Show evidence that anything bad happened to this guy. Because I saw the video of him stopping the entire line of tanks, climbing on top of the tank, knocking on the tank’s entry hatch, having a conversation with the driver, and then walking away.

          The armed soldier in the literal tank literally let the guy walk away. Who stopped him?

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      As far as I know (and I’ve looked), the only actual evidence of his fate is that, at the end of the video, he is ushered off the street by civilians in streetwear. From there, people seem to make conclusions based on an overall impression of the Chinese government as comically evil, rather than any specific or credible evidence (or indeed any evidence at all) related to this guy in particular.

      Which is somewhat understandable, don’t get me wrong – no one investigates everything they hear. We try to gauge the overall picture and then, once we’re convinced (rightly or wrongly), we tend to accept or reject new information on the basis of that picture. Everyone does this. I do it. That’s why US propaganda is so effective. It works by sheer volume and repetition. Once that “comically evil Chinese government” picture is established, people believe new details consistent with it. And if you have a compliant media, that picture may never be challenged enough to dislodge it. Some of the stories are finally starting to collapse now – not even the US state department claims there was a genocide in Xinjiang anymore, for example – but it will take a while for that to ripple out to people.

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        Im not saying Reagan admins were telling the truth but it’s a bit odd that no one was ever able to track him down and the CCP has banned the footage.

        But you’re right. I’m sure the CCP has never disappeared anyone and it’s not like the CCP would lie, right?

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      Well if a “Reagan admin official” and “some other guy” said it, then it must be true!

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    We literally have the video of tankman climbing up the tank and not being flattened, it was even reported back in the day, but people downvoting you can’t be bothered to google that

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      I think the downvotes are because the post implies that the Chinese did not kill anyone, when hundreds were murdered. What became of tank man is unknown, but it’s clear he wasn’t killed by one of those tanks.

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        I heard it was millions, and that evil communist xi xingping plans of doing it again and name it the scary communist leap forward after his favorite scary communist dictator mowz dong