• dan@lemm.ee
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    Then I’m going to begin not fucking watching YouTube.

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      2 years ago

      There is a federated version of YouTube…

      But storing video is a massive challenge, way harder than dealing with a Lemmy or Mastodon instance.

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        My rational mind realises it’s such an expensive system to run that it’s reasonable for them to charge or show ads. The problem is they’ve been extremely aggressive with ads and pushing subscriptions, to the point where I’m pretty resentful of the idea. Plus they’ve neglected so many things (like allowing aggressive copyright predators and refusing to implement sensible human-based appeals processes) that they really should have dealt with and instead embraced an algorithm that I’m pretty sure is at least partially responsible for the radicalisation of large groups of people.

        I… don’t mind paying for shit. I just don’t want to give them money.

        Also: wow there’s federated video sharing? Bet that’s not cheap to run.

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    2 years ago

    When you have a goose that produces a reliable daily supply of golden eggs do you:

    1. keep collecting your daily egg
      or
    2. see if giving it a good kick or two gets you more eggs
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    When will companies finally understand that some people won‘t watch ads no matter what tricks they employ. I‘d rather watch no video at all than a single ad. If that is their goal, fine.

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    I actually do not understand the widespread hostility that people have toward this kind of thing. I watch a lot of content on YouTube, and I don’t want to see ads, so I pay for premium. I watch a lot of content on Twitch, and I don’t want to see ads, so I pay for turbo. Hosting a major video streaming website isn’t cheap. It’s not like these things are unreasonably priced. If you hate the ads so much, then why not pay for the service that the platform is offering you, and for the content that creators are providing on it? And if you don’t watch often enough for ad-free viewing to be worth a few bucks a month to you, then why get so worked up about having to sit through an ad every now and then?

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      I can’t speak for everyone, but I block ads and don’t pay because I hate Google. In addition to their repeated violations of user privacy, they go out of their way to disable OS features unless you pay them. Like disabling background play or PiP with Safari on iOS. Those features use the same open standards as foreground web browsers, so it literally takes extra effort to break them. Effort that could instead be used to fix the numerous problems with their platform, which they don’t. I refuse to reward that behaviour.

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      I hate ads with a passion due to my experiences in the marketing industry and will go out of my way to never watch any. I also don’t want to pay for random internet content, especially not to companies on the stock market. (Though I do use Patreon a bit for some content creators)

      Can‘t explain it much more than that. If youtube locks me out due to that, so be it. I don‘t get worked up either, I simply state my opinion on it where I please and if I‘m not wanted I leave. That‘s about it.

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    They have really gone all out on the whole enshittification process during the past couple of years, haven’t they?

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      Just wait until they figure out how much more $$$$ they can make by putting all content behind microtransactions:

      Imagine a world where, instead of grappling with complex tokens and crypto jargon, you have a digital wallet connected to your Web browser. This wallet would automatically handle microtransactions as you browse and consume content, creating a seamless and simplified experience, reminiscent of exchanging tokens at a funfair or arcade

      This transition to the Great Paywall isn’t just about the monetization of content; it’s about balancing the scales and recognizing the value of content creators in the digital ecosystem. In the next chapter of the Web, users aren’t just passive consumers but active participants whose attention carries tangible value.

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        Let’s not forget that, if we do go down the microtransaction hell of an internet path, we’d be screwing things up big-time for the coming generations…

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    Just FYI for anyone reading: Invidious and Piped are great YouTube mirrors, and Piped even blocks in-video sponsor sections!

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    As fill-in ads are a vector for computer viruses and other malware I for one will NOT be disabling my ad blocker unless YouTube is willing to provide a lifetime subscription to something like Life Lock and make me whole for anything lost to whatever malware arrives as a part of an ad.

    Where else can I watch sci-show, Linus-tech-tips, and all the other channels I subscribe to?

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    You can watch any YouTube video on Invidious, Peertube is a federated alternative to Youtube, Odysee is a blockchain based Youtube alternative that kicks back to creators and users, and many creators use Nebula as a subscription platform that directly pays them.

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      Nebula is really good at this point. Almost everything I enjoy watching is one there now.

      Seems like one of the best options to support your favorite creators.

      • @ram @Pechente but there business model is suspicious. They introduced a lifetime membership, how would that cover their bandwidth costs for those users?
        Unless they’re trying to grow the platform fast and hope for a buy out. But then any prior promises would likely be changed/revoked.

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    I feel like extensions are pretty savvy for fixing this. If not, I will waste less time on YouTube. Hell, why not another big site getting over my limit for hoops that are worth jumping through vs value I get.

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      Yup, a lot of my time got wasted on YouTube… I watched “educational” and “interesting” videos but I have to say that many of the creators got caught into enshittification process too… I would do well with 95% reduction in watch time. However, if they start a real war against adblockers… 100% reduction will it be.

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    YouTube is the only Google service I use on a regular basis. Happy to leave them behind if they continue with this type of behavior.

    It would be less convenient, but it is what it is and if there’s one thing I can’t stand, it’s ads.

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    I really think that Brave will circumvent this. Btw, YouTube will sue Invidious if they don’t stop offering the service in the following weeks. So I think YouTube is onto something here.