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Florencia (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 9 hours ago

A compulsory mandated app installed on every Indian citizen's new phone

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A compulsory mandated app installed on every Indian citizen's new phone

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Florencia (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 9 hours ago
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https://www.livemint.com/news/india/if-you-don-t-want-jyotiraditya-scindia-says-sanchar-saathi-app-is-optional-amid-strong-opposition-protests-11764659707854.html

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  • brachiosaurus@mander.xyz
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    They cannot get rid of the caste system but can successfully surveil 90% of the population

  • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    India saw Britain and said “I’m not going to let my former colonisers out do me.”

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    This is just another crowdstrike incident in the making: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_CrowdStrike-related_IT_outages

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    deleted by creator

  • jof@lemmy.world
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    Crazy this is a thing actually being rolled out and it hasn’t hit world headlines.

    Europe, USA and other countries are not far behind this initiative once they (governments) see how even more successful it is for collecting and sorting data to control citizens.

    Time to go to GrapheneOS folks.

    • RodgeGrabTheCat 🇨🇦🏴‍☠️@sh.itjust.works
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      BBC had an article this morning. I follow them for a different perspective on North American news.

    • Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca
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      I’ve read about it in three different places this morning, I don’t live in India. I thi I it’s hit “world headlines”

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      Just wait until they fine you for noncompliance

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        In the dwindling amount of phones that will allow you to install GOS on them?

        • RodgeGrabTheCat 🇨🇦🏴‍☠️@sh.itjust.works
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          GOS has partnered with an OEM so we may end up with GOS on more phone models.

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        Nah, they’re mostly just going to endlessly harass you for it and wait for you to bribe them.
        They will randomly send dacoits in uniform to beat you up and jail you and make it harder for you to earn a living until they get their birthright bribes.

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        No phone it is then…

        • brachiosaurus@mander.xyz
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          no phones = you cannot create a bank account

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          They seem to have plans for those types too.
          Withdrawing cash is going to be taxed.

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            What does withdrawing cash have to do with owning a phone?

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              If you have a smartphone, you get to use UPI (United Payments Interface).
              If you don’t, you are basically limited to a certain amount of free withdrawal per month, which is set to prevent getting an outcry from BPL (below poverty line) people, which would otherwise be bad for elections.

              I was considering pushing for open source UPI apps for Linux devices (and providing my services for development), to reduce India’s reliance on Google and Android but considering recent events, I believe that is not really going to align with the Government’s plans.

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                Aah you talking India specific, I was talking from a European perspective given the context of the posts I replied to originally.

        • Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          This was my exact thought. I remember the 90s.

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            We had 10¢ pay phones back then though.

            • Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              Everyone had landlines too. Ya, very different times.

        • jof@lemmy.world
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          Basically :/

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        Use a tablet with a MiFi router. The hostile network starts there.

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      Time to go to GrapheneOS folks

      I mean, it has been, for a long time, but this is not why. According to the article you can simply uninstall the app.

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        Bet you are going to have the app installed and scanned for every government service you want to use (including leaving the country).

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          Maybe but that is yet another problem that GOS won’t solve.

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            Could I not just set up another profile in GOS with this app installed and switch to that profile when it’s needed?

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    Lol when this inevitably get backdoored/exploited, it’s gonna be glorious

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      Oh it probably already is just look up the test run they did with their covid app

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    Just saw and ranted about this. I HATE THIS FUCKING FASCIST GOVERNMENT WITH EVERY FIBER OF BY BEING!!!

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      at this pace you are going to be sent to a concentration camp soon

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    I lowkey expect every modern device to be compromised (unless you’re running custom roms). Whether it’s Pegasus or something else. Only permanent solution is to stop using smartphones altogether.

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      Only permanent solution is to stop using smartphones altogether.

      Just make sure your pagers are not backdoored with Semtex either.

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      Only permanent solution is to stop using smartphones altogether

      Even if you can’t, minimizing smartphone use, uptime and carrying mitigates some of the risk

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      If you think every phone has some sort of IME, installing a custom ROM means nothing.

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        A phone’s baseband (modem) runs its own proprietary firmware with full RAM access.

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          This doesn’t make sense to me.
          Why do they even need it to be that way?

          Compartmentalisations was one of the basic points in system design methodology that I thought (because I read it somewhere) smartphones would also be built upon. So why compromise the whole thing to a supply chain attack?

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            Why do they even need it to be that way?

            so that they can surveil you

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            In exchange for giant purchase orders from the government. Qualcomm etc are simply corrupt.

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    Reuters cited sources to report that US tech giant Apple plans not to comply with the mandate and will convey the same to New Delhi

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    How do the corporations feel about this when they have workers in India?

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    Bring back dumb phones!

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      You can get a Nokia flip phone on Amazon for under $100. Before all the tariff BS it was more like $60. My daughter has been using one exclusively for about six months.

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    Does the iOS one get this sweeping access to everything as well (which would require Apple to specifically give it entitlements)?

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      Reuters cited sources to report that US tech giant Apple plans not to comply with the mandate and will convey the same to New Delhi.

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    Cool…how can I get it?

    They too should suffer my endless search history for obscurities. I want them to download all of my USB storage of virus infected malware. I will sit idly and tap my fingertips against each other while my SMS messages corrupt their society from within.

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    https://www.amazon.com/Nokia-3310-3G-Unlocked-T-Mobile/dp/B075FL4H89

    Sorry how to install it exactly?

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      Currently unavailable. We don’t know when or if this item will be back in stock.

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    I use Custom Rom(LineageOS)

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